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Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by beAbU on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @04:39AM (#46883663)
It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to create, own, distribute or store sexually explicit material that represents a real person without their consent, regardless if they are underage or not.

Grok is a platform that is enabling this en masse. If xAI can't bring in guardrails or limit who can access these capabilities, then they deserve what's coming to them.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by GaryBluto on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @07:34AM (#46885085)
>It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to create, own, distribute or store sexually explicit material that represents a real person without their consent, regardless if they are underage or not.

Arguably morally reprehensible but it has not always been illegal (and still isn't in many places) if you're talking about images of adults.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by a_better_world on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @09:12AM (#46886026)
Did you miss the "without their consent" part?
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by philipwhiuk on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @09:33AM (#46886266)
I think Gary is just reaching back to antiquity.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @09:34AM (#46886275)
"Argually" morally reprehensible? I don't think that's very cash money to be honest.

This comment chain isn't about a difference of opinion, but a difference in morality - there's no debating possible about morals I think.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by actionfromafar on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:17AM (#46884443)
I think you are going a bit too far.

Let's start from the beginning, create and own:

You're sketching out some nude fanart on a piece of paper. You created that and own that. Thas has always been illegal?!

(This is apart from my feelings on Mechahitler/Grok, which aren't positive.)

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by reddalo on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:26AM (#46884515)
You can _almost_ do anything you want in the privacy of your home; but in this case Twitter was actively and directly disseminating pictures publicly on their platform.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by kimixa on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:51AM (#46884741)
And profiting from it, though less directly than "$ for illegal images". Even if it wasn't behind a paywall (which it mostly is) driving more traffic for more ads for more income is still profiting from illegal imagery.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by andrepd on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:42AM (#46884640)
> You're sketching out some nude fanart on a piece of paper.

Is twitter a piece of paper in your desk? No, it's not.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by actionfromafar on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @07:24AM (#46885006)
Right.

OP had "It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to create, own, distribute or store "

It would make more sense then to instead say:

"It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to distribute "

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by andrepd on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @07:30AM (#46885056)
Again, AI deepfakes are not sketches in a piece of paper. There's a massive difference between drawing your coworker naked on a piece of paper (weird, but certainly not criminal), and going "grok generate a video of my coworker bouncing on my d*ck". Not to mention the latter is generated and stored god knows where, against the consent of the depicted person.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by master-lincoln on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:26AM (#46884516)
In which broken society do you live where this is true? I would say drawing sexually explicit pictures of real persons without their consent and keeping them in your drawer is neither illegal nor morally reprehensible in most of the world.

I am with you on publishing these...

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by freetanga on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @08:17AM (#46885481)
Not morally reprehensible? Do you tell your coworkers “hey, last night I sketched you nude, but it’s cool, it’s in my bedside drawer…”
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by master-lincoln on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @09:33AM (#46886254)
I would personally not tell them because not everyone likes to know what/that others think about them. But I do not see the moral issue if I don't tell them.

What if I only thought about it? Still morally reprehensible? Or only if I tell others I think about them? Then you could argue it's sexual harassment.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by mothballed on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @08:34AM (#46885632)
I've had a coworker tell me something very close to that before. I could have been morally outraged but instead I just propositioned them for a date.

Personally I think it's just embarrassing, not immoral.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @09:36AM (#46886315)
I don't think one internet commenter can know or decide what is or isn't "morally reprehensible" in "most of the world". I don't speak for "most of the world" but I'm fairly sure "I drew nudes of your mom lol" will not go down well anywhere.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by master-lincoln on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @10:13AM (#46886813)
then we are both sure of different things that are hard to check ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by sandworm101 on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @09:41AM (#46886379)
>> or store sexually explicit material that represents a real person without their consent

Who told you that? Go ask Pamela Anderson or Paris Hilton about that one. There are rules about material created without consent, but people do not retain a perpetual right to have formerly consentual material taken down. Hollywood, let alone the porn industry, would collapse overnight if every disgruntled star could have movies removed whenever they feel like it simply by withdrawing "consent" years after creation.

And for copyright, generally the person on camera is not holding the camera and so is not the creator/owner of the material. That is a regular issue where people attempt to use the dmca to remove images of themselves from websites.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by BigTTYGothGF on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @10:09AM (#46886746)
> Paris Hilton

She can't withdraw consent when she never gave it in the first place.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by sandworm101 on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @10:24AM (#46886944)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Night_in_Paris

She claimes, later, to have not consented but given the sophistication of the production no reasonable person could believe she had no idea it was being filmed. She might not consent to the exact public release but she was certainly well aware of being filmed on the day. She consented to the creation.

Same issue decades later during the iphone hacks/leaks. They did not consent to public release, but did consent to creation and private distribution, sometimes even taking and initially sharing the photos themselves.