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Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by RickJWagner on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:08PM (#46757657)
Don’t forget about social media posts. In the UK, people are being jailed for those today.

Imagine if they used your past post history against you.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by iso1631 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:40PM (#46757966)
In the US if you make a social media post threatening the president you are breaking the law and can be sent to jail just as much as if you said it
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by ambicapter on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:05PM (#46758214)
Link?
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by ambicapter on Monday January 26, 2026 @07:00PM (#46773545)
These are ALL about the UK, including the “congress.gov” link.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by RickJWagner on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @11:02PM (#46790918)
My apologies. I thought you were asking on a different branch ( about the USA). The misunderstanding is my fault.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by zugi on Sunday January 25, 2026 @04:23PM (#46758394)
These are both true statements, but there's a huge difference in scale.

The UK arrests 12,000 people per year for social media posts ( https://freedomhouse.org/country/united-kingdom/freedom-net/... ), for a broad range of vague reasons including causing offense. That's far more than much larger totalitarian nations like Russia and China.

The US arrests folks for direct online threats of violence - a much higher bar.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by lovich on Sunday January 25, 2026 @06:11PM (#46759611)
Not anymore. Now in the US you can be arrested if cops think you disrespected a dead guy they liked[1]

[1] https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-meme-tennessee-arres...

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by zugi on Sunday January 25, 2026 @07:34PM (#46760286)
Yes, that was egregious and well-publicized. I've seen another case of a small-town sheriff arresting someone for a Facebook post that absolutely was not a threat of violence. Both were released and I believe the latter won a lawsuit for wrongful arrest.

But in general in the US "offending" others is not a legal basis for arrest, as much as some in power would like it to be.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by lovich on Monday January 26, 2026 @02:13AM (#46762718)
If the sheriff who arrested this person has zero personal consequences that make him change his behavior, then it is de facto legal for them to arrest you for your speech.

They can do what they like, and your compensation if the courts think you were harmed, comes out of your own pocket as a taxpayer.

Show me the incentives and I’ll show you the outcome. The incentive here is that someone the government don’t like got put in a cell for a month and couldn’t speak, and they get no downsides. I wonder what will keep happening more and more.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by FireBeyond on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:43PM (#46773369)
> If the sheriff who arrested this person has zero personal consequences that make him change his behavior, then it is de facto legal for them to arrest you for your speech.

Yeah, in my state, the Sheriff of my County is beefing with the next County's Sheriff, because among other things, that Sheriff's perspective on "is it legal" was literally, and I quote, not paraphrase. "Make the arrest. If it's wrong, the courts can figure it out." Great, slap people with the arrest, the inconvenience of being jailed, charged, and having to hire a lawyer because you don't give a fuck about doing your job. Not coincidentally, same Sheriff is openly inviting ICE to the towns in his county saying his Department will provide additional protective cover.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by XorNot on Sunday January 25, 2026 @06:33PM (#46759819)
> The UK arrests 12,000 people per year for social media posts ( https://freedomhouse.org/country/united-kingdom/freedom-net/... ), for a broad range of vague reasons including causing offense. That's far more than much larger totalitarian nations like Russia and China.

No they do not. Quote, from your own link:

> According to an April 2025 freedom of information report filed by The Times, over 12,000 people were arrested, including for social media posts, in 2023 under section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 and section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988.

Emphasis mine. "Including". Not exclusively, not only, including.

Now what does the law being cited actually say[1]?

> It is an offence under these sections to send messages of a “grossly offensive” or “indecent, obscene or menacing” character or persistently use a public electronic communications network to cause “annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety”.

With additional clarification[2]:

> A spokeswoman for Leicestershire police said crimes under Section 127 and Section 1 include “any form of communication” such as phone calls, letters, emails and hoax calls to emergency services.

> “They may also be serious domestic abuse-related crimes. Our staff must assess all of the information to determine if the threshold to record a crime has been met.

So you're deliberately spreading misinformation here, as was the original article by the Times and as is everyone else who keeps quoting this figure. Because by means of lying by omission they want to imply one very specific thing: "you will be arrested for criticizing the government on social media". But the actual crime statistic is about a much more common, much broader category of crime - namely: harassment. That 12,000 a year figure includes targeted harassment by almost any carriage medium, as well as crimes like "prank" calling emergency services. It means it includes death threats, stalking, domestic abuse and just about every other type of non-physical abuse or intimidation.

Of course you could've also figured out this is bullshit with a very simple litmus test: 12,000 people a year wouldn't be hard to find if the UK was mass-jailing people on public social media. But it's not what's happening.

The text of the law as well, for anyone interested: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127

[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wales-englan...

[2] https://archive.md/bdEqK#selection-3009.0-3009.194:~:text=A%....

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by crimsoneer on Sunday January 25, 2026 @03:43PM (#46757988)
No they're not. An incredibly small number of people might get arrested if policing cocks up. Nobody is being jailed.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by direwolf20 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @05:54PM (#46759446)
Which posts are people being jailed for?
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by RickJWagner on Sunday January 25, 2026 @07:23PM (#46760214)
Here’s Googles response:

Yes, arrests for social media activity occur in the UK under laws like the Communications Act 2003 and Malicious Communications Act 1988, targeting offenses such as sending offensive/menacing messages, false communications, hate speech, or child grooming, with thousands arrested annually, though charges and convictions vary, and new laws like the Online Safety Act 2023 add further regulatory scope.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by direwolf20 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @07:51PM (#46760418)
Notice how the AI didn't answer the question — and you chose to post it anyway.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by RickJWagner on Sunday January 25, 2026 @08:04PM (#46760524)
What exactly are you asking for? The offending posts are probably deleted. Do you mistrust Google?
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by direwolf20 on Sunday January 25, 2026 @08:08PM (#46760541)
> Which posts are people being jailed for?
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by RickJWagner on Sunday January 25, 2026 @08:28PM (#46760658)
Google turns up many.

Here’s one, you can easily find more.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr548zdmz3jo

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by gassi on Sunday January 25, 2026 @11:45PM (#46761963)
> Parlour, of Seacroft, Leeds, who called for an attack on a hotel housing refugees and asylum seekers on Facebook, became the first person to be jailed for stirring up racial hatred during the disorder.

> Kay was convicted after he used social media to call for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set alight.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by platevoltage on Monday January 26, 2026 @01:59AM (#46762642)
Calling for an attack on a person or persons IS the crime. It was a crime before social media existed as well.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by rsynnott on Monday January 26, 2026 @05:03AM (#46763729)
Can’t even advocate arson and murder anymore; it’s political correctness gone mad!

Inciting murder doesn’t count as free speech _anywheree_.

Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by Timon3 on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:35AM (#46764417)
It's fascinating - I seem to remember seeing this interaction happen time and time again with GP. I wonder why they keep leaving out the calls for arson.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by rsynnott on Monday January 26, 2026 @05:01AM (#46763715)
I’m convinced these things are dissolving their users’ brains at this point. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.
Re:ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data by breakingcups on Monday January 26, 2026 @04:38AM (#46763564)
"I asked an LLM and it said" holds no weight nor meaning, except to inform us on how easily your opinion is swayed.