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Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by an0malous on Friday January 23, 2026 @01:23PM (#46735835)
I agree, I’m one of the Very Serious Engineers and I liked Steve’s post when I thought it was sort of tongue in cheek but was horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering. There absolutely is a large contingent of engineers who believe this, and it has a real world impact on my job if my bosses think you can just throw a dozen AI agents at our product roadmap and get better productivity than an engineer. This is not whimsical to me, I’m getting burnt out trying to navigate the absurd expectations of investors and executives with the real world engineering concerns of my day to day job.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Friday January 23, 2026 @02:18PM (#46736568)
It's a half-joke. No need to take it that seriously or that jokingly. It's mostly only grifters and cryptocurrency scammers claiming it's amazing.

I think ideas from it will probably partially inspire future, simpler systems.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wonnage on Friday January 23, 2026 @03:58PM (#46737828)
It may be a joke in the same way that brogramming was a joke and somehow became an enduring tech bro stereotype
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by adabyron on Friday January 23, 2026 @10:06PM (#46740676)
Strong agreement with this. The whimsical, fantasy, fun, light hearted things are great until a large enough group of people take them as a serious life motto & then try to push it on everyone else.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by leoc on Saturday January 24, 2026 @04:24AM (#46742178)
Taking the example of the cryptocurrency boom (as a whole) as the guide, the problem is the interaction of two realities: big money on the table; and the self-fulfilling-prophecy (not to say Ponzi) dynamic of needing people to keep clapping for Tinker-bell, in greater and greater numbers, to keep the line going up. It corrupts whimsical fun and community spirit, it corrupts idealism, and it corrupts technical curiosity.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by lupire on Friday January 23, 2026 @05:01PM (#46738569)
stevey already made $300K from cryptocurrency grift on Gas Town. Read his blog post about it.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wahnfrieden on Friday January 23, 2026 @05:57PM (#46739143)
Complete with a "Let’s goooooooo!"

And FOMO stories about missing out on Bitcoin when he knew about it, so he doesn't want you to miss out on this new opportunity to get "filthy rich" as an "investor" while you still can.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wahnfrieden on Saturday January 24, 2026 @12:20AM (#46741293)
More details on the pump and dump scheme he joined in on promoting and drew money from: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/01/22/steve-yegges-gas-town-vib...
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by JasonADrury on Saturday January 24, 2026 @05:08AM (#46742336)
I feel it's hard to criticize people for engaging in this anymore. Why would any reasonable person not take the free money?

In the past this would've been different when you couldn't necessarily expect all participants to be fully aware of what's going on, but absolutely nobody is treating "gas town" coins as a serious investment.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by jaapz on Saturday January 24, 2026 @06:32AM (#46742724)
Why is it hard to criticize people for being part of a scam operation? It's so morally and ethically bankrupt that it's really easy and valid to criticize someone for
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by JasonADrury on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:27AM (#46743336)
Who is being scammed? The only people buying into tokens as obscure as these are degenerate gamblers who know very well that it's not any kind of an investment.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by jaapz on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:37AM (#46743408)
That sounds like victim blaming to me
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by JasonADrury on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:39AM (#46743421)
It's not a scam, there's no misrepresentation. This very clearly isn't marketed as an investment of any kind https://bags.fm

https://apps.apple.com/app/bags-financial-messenger/id647319...

The tagline of the app? "Buy & sell memecoins". Transparently advertised as a crowdfunding mechanism using memecoins.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wahnfrieden on Saturday January 24, 2026 @09:59AM (#46744124)
Yegge write a blog post for his readers where he called it an investment and hoped the investors would get “filthy rich”.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Sunday January 25, 2026 @09:28AM (#46754324)
What? Of course it's marketed as an investment. That's the sole thing it's marketed as. Are you not able to lift the thinnest veil imaginable?
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Saturday January 24, 2026 @05:47AM (#46742501)
Because you'd be aiding and abetting a pennystock scam.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by JasonADrury on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:32AM (#46743376)
The difference between bags.fm and pennystock scams is that bags.fm is very obviously not marketed as an investment, but a crowdfunding tool.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wahnfrieden on Saturday January 24, 2026 @10:00AM (#46744136)
Yegge write a blog post for his readers where he called it an investment and hoped the investors would get “filthy rich”.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Sunday January 25, 2026 @09:30AM (#46754332)
It's absolutely marketed as an investment, and solely used and referenced by people saying it is an investment. This is like saying those cannabis paraphernalia shops are marketed as only for tobacco.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by victorbjorklund on Saturday January 24, 2026 @06:28AM (#46742706)
But people do. There are people who genuinely think crypto is an investment. Yes, smart people knows it is just a grift and that it is just about selling it on to the next person before it crashes. But is it moral to make money on stupid people? Many people lose all their money on gambling even if we always known gambling is a loss.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by JasonADrury on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:31AM (#46743365)
> There are people who genuinely think crypto is an investment.

Sure! Are those people buying bags.fm tokens? Probably not.

This isn't even marketed as an investment https://bags.fm but a crowdfunding tool for developers with a casino attached.

You don't have to be smart to read the big text on the website.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wahnfrieden on Saturday January 24, 2026 @10:01AM (#46744142)
Yegge write a blog post for his readers where he called it an investment and hoped the investors would get “filthy rich”.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Sunday January 25, 2026 @09:31AM (#46754344)
You don't have to be smart to understand they're very, very, very obviously saying it's an investment and using extremely superficial cover. All things like these are exclusively pennystock scams.

You're being bamboozled. Google the name of it. Search it on Twitter and 4chan. Watch any Coffeezilla video.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by JasonADrury on Monday January 26, 2026 @06:50AM (#46764533)
I'm googling "bags.fm", everything I can find is about money going to creators. Literally nothing suggesting that you're going to get rich by buying these tokens.

Searching for "bags.fm" on X with keywords like "invest" or "rich" or "moon" also does not seem to return any conversations referring to anyone but the creators getting rich.

I can't find any bags.fm references on 4chan, and searching for gas town instead doesn't seem to bring up anything cryptocurrency related in the archive.

> You're being bamboozled

I don't think so. I suspect the world is so full of crypto scams that when someone does something explicitly non-scammy ("Hey, here's a crypto thing you can use to give me free money!") people still incorrectly view it as scammy because of crypto.

How many memecoin "investors" do you think view these as serious investments? I suspect essentially none of them.

How many memecoin "investors" are degenerate gambling addicts who need treatment? Probably most of them.

Taking money from vulnerable gambling addicts is certainly not ideal, but it's far from scammy.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by wahnfrieden on Monday January 26, 2026 @10:49AM (#46767120)
Yegge himself wrote a blog post to his non crypto audience calling it an investment that he hopes makes its investors filthy rich. He pumped it, then he dumped it, and announced he’s walking away from it at that point after taking his profits and crashing its value.

I don’t know why you’re talking about existing hardcore BAGS addicts when the topic is Yegge promoting a crypto grift to his own general audience as an investment and then running the typical pump and dump scam on them.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Monday January 26, 2026 @11:49AM (#46767952)
It's a scam or a pennystock grift or whatever term you want to use.

https://x.com/Fizzy__01/status/1956006313848397861

100% of these things are somewhere on the scam and fraud spectrum. An unscrupulous person creates a token or a platform for creating tokens with the goal of raising the worthless token's price so they can parasitically make millions from something that holds zero value.

The "fund creators" thing is a common ploy. If they actually wanted to do that, they'd make it so you can only donate with dollars or stablecoins.

Look at the dozens of replies to all of Yegge's posts, now: https://x.com/Steve_Yegge/status/2014530592134910215

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Saturday January 24, 2026 @05:47AM (#46742497)
This initially sunk my heart, but in all his replies there are like 50 very clearly unintelligent crypto grifters telling him he needs to be killed for scamming them, so I am unsure who to root for at this point. It's depressing he accepted it, but I might partially forgive it due to him making a lot of them lose money.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by DonHopkins on Saturday January 24, 2026 @09:09AM (#46743687)
MOOLLM has its own official currency -- MOOLAH!

https://github.com/SimHacker/moollm/tree/main/skills/economy...

The official currency of MOOLLM is MOOLAH. It uses PROOF OF MILK consensus — udderly legen-dairy interga-lactic shit coin, without the bull.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by torginus on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:02AM (#46743187)
I don't get crypto - just looked up how a couple of most performant stocks did in the past decade, and I'm pretty sure you could outperform BTC with the same amount of risk tolerance.

The swings on BTC price are absolutely insane, and ETH even more so (which is even more risky, without showing higher gains).

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by cap11235 on Saturday January 24, 2026 @12:02AM (#46741213)
People keep giving him the benefit of the doubt. "He's clearly on to something, I just don't know what". I know what. The hustle of the shill. He has long gone from 'let's use a lot of tokens' to seeking a high score. He disgusts me.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by meowface on Saturday January 24, 2026 @07:44AM (#46743094)
What high score?
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by torginus on Saturday January 24, 2026 @07:53AM (#46743140)
what the? how do you sell crypto based on a description of an orchestration framework?

donations?

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by pstuart on Friday January 23, 2026 @03:12PM (#46737252)
AI is such a fun topic -- the hype makes it easy to loath, but as a coder working with Claude I think it's an awesome tool.

Gastown looks like a viable avenue for some app development. One of the most interesting things I've noticed about AI development is that it forces one to articulate desired and prohibited behaviors -- a spec becomes a true driving force.

Yegge's posts are always hyperbolic and he consistently presents interesting takes on the industry so I'm willing to cut him a buttload of slack.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by joquarky on Sunday January 25, 2026 @01:24AM (#46751325)
I find it interesting that waterfall is becoming popular again.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by ctmnt on Monday February 02, 2026 @10:49PM (#46866233)
I agree, it is really interesting. I think that the main reason, though, is that instead of a waterfall cycle taking weeks or months, it now takes minutes. So it’s the process of waterfall (speccing things out carefully in advance, committing to the plan, assessing the results based on adherence to the plan, etc), but on the time frame of agile.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by lowbloodsugar on Friday January 23, 2026 @03:13PM (#46737271)
I too am a Very Serious Engineer but my shock is in the other direction: of course the ideas behind Gas Town are the future of software development and several VSEs I know are developing a proper, robust, engineering version of it that works. As the author of this article here remarks “yes, but Steve did it first”, and it annoys me that if I had written this post nobody would have read it, but also that, because I intend to use it in Very Serious Business ($bns) my version isn’t ready to a actually be published yet. Bravo to Steve for getting these thoughts on paper and the idea built even in such crude form. But “level 8” is real and there will be 9s and 10s and I am really enjoying building my own.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by csallen on Friday January 23, 2026 @06:40PM (#46739471)
> "Gastown as the future of engineering"

Note the word "future" not "present". People are making a prediction of where things will go. I haven't seen a single person saying that Gas Town as it exists today is ready for production-grade engineering project.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by jmspring on Friday January 23, 2026 @07:23PM (#46739767)
I think Steve's idea of an agent coordinator and the general model could make sense. There is a lot of discussion (and even work from Anthropic, OpenAI, etc) around multiagent workflows.

Is Gas Town the implementation? I'm not sure.

What is interesting is seeing how this paradigm can help improve one's workflow. There is still a lot of guidance and structuring of prompts / claude.md / whichever files that need to be carefully written.

If there is a push for the equivalent of helm charts and crds for gas town, then I will be concerned.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by storystarling on Saturday January 24, 2026 @10:11AM (#46744234)
I ran into this building a similar workflow with LangGraph. The prompt engineering is definitely a pain, but the real bottleneck with the coordinator model turns out to be the compounding context costs. You end up passing the full state history back and forth, so you are paying for the same tokens repeatedly. Between that and the latency from serial round-trips, it becomes very hard to justify in production.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by cthalupa on Friday January 23, 2026 @10:12PM (#46740704)
> horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering.

I don't spend much time on LinkedIn, but basically every comment I've read on HN is that, at best, Gas Town can pump out a huge amount of "working" code in short timeframes at obscene costs.

The overwhelming majority are saying "This is neat, and this might be the rough shape of what comes next in agentic coding, but it's almost certainly not going to be Gas Town itself."

I have seen basically no one say that Gas Town is the The Thing.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by spacecadet on Saturday January 24, 2026 @06:15AM (#46742638)
"I’m getting burnt out trying to navigate the absurd expectations of investors and executives with the real world engineering concerns of my day to day job."

Welcome to being a member of a product team who cares beyond just whats on their screen... Honestly there is a humbling moment coming for everyone, it and Im not sure its unemployment.

Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by Treegarden on Saturday January 24, 2026 @07:00AM (#46742864)
If your boss is that bad, the correct long-term move is to leave, not to wish technology didn’t advance.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by pxtail on Saturday January 24, 2026 @09:13AM (#46743715)
Your boss and other ones who are asleep someday will wake up too.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by dada216 on Saturday January 24, 2026 @08:30AM (#46743363)
Embrace and use it to your advantage. Tell them nobody knows and understands how these things will actually work long term, that's why there's stuff like gas town, and that the way you see all of this is you can manage this process. What you bring to the table is making sure it will actually work if the tech is safe and sound, reaping the rewards, or protect the business if the tech fails, protecting the company from catastrophic tech failure, telll them that you are uniquely positioned to carry out the balancing act because you are deep in the tech itself. bonus if you explain the uncertainty framing in the business strategy: "because nobody really understands the tech nobody has an advantage, we are all playing on a leveled field, from the big boys at FAANGs to us peasants in normal non-tech enterprises: I am your advantage here if you give me the tools and leverage I need to make this work". if you play this right you'll get the fat bonus whether the tech actually works or not.
Re:Gas Town's Agent Patterns, Design Bottlenecks, and Vibeco... by bloppe on Saturday January 24, 2026 @11:53AM (#46745147)
I feel that yegge captured the mania of the whole operation rather well. If your bosses commit to the idea that 100 memoryless stochastic "polecats" will deliver a long term sustainable business, then there are probably other leadership issues besides this.