Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by soperj on Sunday January 04, 2026 @02:05PM
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Wild cows won't really happen, aside from them being easy prey, milk cows can't even feed their young because they produce so much milk that they drown them. They have to feed the babies with a bottle.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by Mistletoe on Sunday January 04, 2026 @05:10PM
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Do you have a reference for that? Some googling says it is a myth, which sounds right.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by soperj on Monday January 05, 2026 @06:42PM
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Been to a dairy farm.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by Mistletoe on Monday January 05, 2026 @11:52PM
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Idk my Dad worked on a dairy farm part time when I was a kid and I've never heard of that. That's just not how teats and udders work. There is nothing here about how the cow makes too much milk and will drown the calf.
https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/youngstock-management/pros-c...
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by soperj on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @11:54AM
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This is what the dairy farmer told me when I asked why they bottle feed.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by mickdeek86 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @10:50PM
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He may have been pulling your leg. We bottle feed the calves formula, because to allow the calves to drink the milk would defeat the purpose of raising dairy cows. Also teat cleanliness and health is huge; suckling causes problems.
Incidentally, wild cows actually are a thing in a bunch of far-flung places. I saw them in the Aleutian islands (some genius brought them up there thinking he could get a beef business going and just left them when it of course failed) and they're mean as hell. There's a bunch of feral cattle on the Big Island of Hawaii as well, and TIL there are ~5 million stray cows in India where it illegal to kill them for religious reasons, which creates a massive problem for transport infrastructure, and gave rise to possibly my all-time favorite wikipedia article title:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_vigilante_violence_in_Indi...
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by easywood on Sunday January 04, 2026 @02:04PM
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You should read "The World Without Us" by Alan Weisman.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by sorentwo on Sunday January 04, 2026 @03:54PM
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Seconded. I was going to say the exact same thing. Brilliant thought exercise that I still think about on a weekly basis 20 years later.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by sriacha on Sunday January 04, 2026 @08:00PM
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Hah, was just about to write that. Also recommended.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by kitesay on Sunday January 04, 2026 @04:45PM
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More like a managed herd in a fenced paddock. A spring tourist attraction.
I wonder how climate change is going to affect the idealistic "restore the ecosystem" plan.
Re:Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
by dmix on Monday January 05, 2026 @12:59AM
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Definitely more of a luxury exercise. A sort of zoo with even more researchers and administrators watching over
Id personally put that money into fighting the Pine Beatles which at this moment are killing huge swathes of existing wildlife and ecosystems. But that’s hard laborious work.
Anyway it would be really interesting to be able to chart the changes to this microcosm of a prairie ecosystem over thousands of years if there were no human intervention whatsoever.