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Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by moralestapia on Saturday January 03, 2026 @09:28AM (#46477056)
"Events in the present determine events in the future".

Very deep observation.

Maduro had to be removed, this is a win for Venezuela. On one side he's a criminal, on the other side people at the country are cheering for this [1].

He didn't even win the most recent election. I'll write that again, he was not elected.

I haven't seen a convincing argument about why it would have been better if he remained in power.

1: https://x.com/SofyCasas_/status/2007455810884886992

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by jacquesm on Saturday January 03, 2026 @09:58AM (#46477403)
People were asking for an example of such attitudes on HN, thank you for providing one.

All of the reasons you list apply to many world leaders, legitimately elected or not. You must be ecstatic about the pardon of Hernández then.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by stickfigure on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:55AM (#46478059)
> legitimately elected or not

Let's just focus on the not-legitimately-elected ones. Venezuela was a functioning democracy until Maduro took control through force and fraud. Shed not one tear for him.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by jacquesm on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:44AM (#46478691)
I won't. That still doesn't mean this is over by a long shot. My bet is on the oil with a side dish of Epstein distraction. At least the latter seems to have worked. Wouldn't it be too bad if Venezuela actually gets to decide who they want to deal with regarding their oil and they pick France, the UK or China...
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by moralestapia on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:07AM (#46477499)
>All of the reasons you list apply to many world leaders, legitimately elected or not.

That's correct. One at a time, I'd say. :)

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by ks2048 on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:02AM (#46478162)
"He shouldn't be in power" and "He should be kidnapped and removed by the US military (and his county bombed)" are two different arguments to make.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by wsatb on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:10AM (#46477537)
> I haven't seen a convincing argument about why it would have been better if he remained in power.

You're way off base here. No one is arguing that he should be in power. It's the way it was done. You're also ignoring a very important question: now what?

Sorry, but the last year has not inspired confidence that this administration knows what it's doing.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by bjourne on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:36AM (#46478590)
> He didn't even win the most recent election. I'll write that again, he was not elected.

The most recent election in Venezuela was in 2025 and Maduro's faction(s) won a landslide victory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Venezuelan_parliamentary_.... Nothing indicates that the results were fraudulent.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by LunaSea on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:27AM (#46477747)
Could you redo this analysis and explain why China shouldn't fly into Florida and kidnap Trump?

After all most of the country wants him out, he's a felon and broke the law countless times since his election.

Seems like a win for the people of the US and America.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by sigwinch on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:44AM (#46477932)
Plus, the stalemate on Taiwan right now is US strategic ambiguity. Maybe Trump “visiting” China to offer his strategic brilliance during their expansion will finally get him a bigger peace prize.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by aipatselarom on Saturday January 03, 2026 @10:33AM (#46477812)
President Trump was elected democratically by the people of the US, by majority in both the electoral and popular vote.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by LunaSea on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:30AM (#46478498)
So? Because he was legitimately elected he can do whatever he wants with no consequences?

Multiple lawsuits and inquiries on Trump were stopped when he became president.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by goatlover on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:49AM (#46478762)
Jack Smith also made the clear case to Congress last week that he has the evidence that Trump did try to overthrow the 2020 election and inspired the January 6th insurrection, so he should not have been eligible to run in 2024. He should have been in prison.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by jacquesm on Saturday January 03, 2026 @12:45PM (#46479411)
Maybe Colombia could swoop in and abduct Trump... This world is getting crazier by the hour.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by goatlover on Saturday January 03, 2026 @03:18PM (#46481093)
Well Columbia, Mexico and Cuba have been threatened by the Trump administration since Maduro was taken.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by moralestapia on Saturday January 03, 2026 @06:20PM (#46482836)
Colombia. It's not that difficult, @goatlover.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by quesera on Saturday January 03, 2026 @11:01PM (#46484750)
To be fair, the English names for all other places named after Cristoforo Colombo use the English spelling for Christopher Columbus. It might be difficult to remember the (locally-less common) exception.

And our primitive spell checkers often cannot deduce from context, as there are many, perhaps most cases, where Columbia is the most-likely correct rendition. Even if we transcend our own difficulties, Siri might defeat us.

You are correct that the correct English spelling for Colombia is Colombia, and surely it is problematic to localize a foreign country's name.

So please reciprocally acknowledge receipt of our formal request for Colombians to stop calling the USA "EE. UU.", "Estados Unidos de América", and all other such indignities. :)

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by refurb on Sunday January 04, 2026 @01:17AM (#46485475)
I’m sure the evidence for this is as strong as the Russiagate evidence.

You don’t see the irony in claiming Trump wasn’t elected in a democratic fashion, by using undemocratic methods to force him out?

I see the irony.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by timeon on Sunday January 04, 2026 @02:26AM (#46485772)
Not in 2016.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by nobody9999 on Monday January 05, 2026 @03:12AM (#46496406)
>President Trump was elected democratically by the people of the US, by majority in both the electoral and popular vote.

It was a plurality of the popular vote, not a majority[0]. A majority is >50%. Trump received 49.8%.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by mempko on Saturday January 03, 2026 @04:00PM (#46481481)
As Trump said, Venezuela was not pumping it's oil out of the ground at a high rate. Venezuela has the largest known oil reserves.

Trump is risking organized human life by helping accelerate global warming and ecological collapse.

This is not a good outcome for the world.

Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by timeon on Sunday January 04, 2026 @02:25AM (#46485767)
Good do Putin next then.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by torcete on Sunday January 04, 2026 @04:28AM (#46486411)
I reckon this was an agreement between Putin and Trump. Ukraine for Venezuela. I can be wrong, of course.
Re:Venezuela's capital hit by explosions, smoke seen by microtonal on Sunday January 04, 2026 @04:59AM (#46486548)
It’s also worth noting that, according to Trump’s former Russia advisor, Fiona Hill, Russia once pushed for a “swap” in which it would abandon its support for Venezuela in exchange for the U.S. abandoning its support for Ukraine.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-venezuela-take...

Of course, that doesn't mean that there is a deal, but it is certainly a possibility.