News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by CrossVR on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:15AM (#46454301)
> I consider this betrayal - naturally by Google

You're using a web browser built by a company whose primary income is advertising. What did you think would happen instead?

A lot of people have this weird idea that companies are their friends and would defend their interests despite large financial incentives to betray that trust.

Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by PaulHoule on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:46AM (#46454528)
I’m sure they’d love to include a blocker in Chrome that blocks all the competitive ad networks.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by saintfire on Thursday January 01, 2026 @10:33AM (#46454863)
If they'd ever allow such a thing to exist.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by moffkalast on Thursday January 01, 2026 @01:07PM (#46456371)
Why waste effort on something that's a rounding error at best?
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by like_any_other on Thursday January 01, 2026 @01:31PM (#46456646)
It is because of such effort that they are rounding errors: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/04/google-loses-ad-...
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by trinix912 on Thursday January 01, 2026 @01:31PM (#46456642)
But then they'd be one antitrust investigation away from losing it all.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by CrossVR on Friday January 02, 2026 @09:37AM (#46465149)
What do you think uBlock Lite is for? They'll continue to cripple it until it is unable to block YouTube ads while still being able to block everything else.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by h2zizzle on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:41AM (#46454491)
"That's just how they make their money," is a common and terrible excuse.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by morcus on Thursday January 01, 2026 @10:17AM (#46454745)
It's not making an excuse on the part of Google, it's pointing out the naivety of expecting otherwise from Google.

Firefox still allows uBlock origin, and even on mobile.

Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by oreilles on Thursday January 01, 2026 @11:41AM (#46455476)
One's expectations aren't in any way relevant in considering wether something is an asshole move or not.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by integralid on Thursday January 01, 2026 @11:56AM (#46455626)
Calling company strategy an "asshole move" is anthropomorphizing a lawnmower.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by amanaplanacanal on Thursday January 01, 2026 @12:10PM (#46455788)
Company strategies are created by individual humans being assholes. Don't make excuses for them.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by hnbad on Thursday January 01, 2026 @02:12PM (#46457031)
Being an asshole is incentivized by the system. If you don't want companies to behave like assholes, change the system to one that punishes that.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by h2zizzle on Saturday January 03, 2026 @12:14PM (#46479068)
The first step in disincentivizing being an asshole is pointing out that someone is being an asshole.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by skeeter2020 on Thursday January 01, 2026 @12:19PM (#46455887)
This is a parallel argument to the whole "to big to fail" nonsense and not really in line with the famous comparison of a single person to a machine. Company strategies are typically created by small groups of people who - especially in this case - know exactly what the impact and longer-reach implications of their decisions will be. It is entirely reasonable to hold the people of any organization accountable for the policies they enact via that organization.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by jaapz on Thursday January 01, 2026 @12:59PM (#46456288)
It's still people who make up a company

That strategy did not come into existence through some abstract entity

Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by rockskon on Thursday January 01, 2026 @02:36PM (#46457267)
Firefox has had poor stewardship for quite a few years now with an uncertain future.

Even moreso - uBlock Origin doesn't block the modern equivalent of pop-up ads unless you manually block elements. Even then - half the time the block isn't even saved and needs to be redone every page visit.

Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by aembleton on Friday January 02, 2026 @04:27AM (#46463056)
> needs to be redone every page visit

Have you got an example of that?

Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by brookst on Thursday January 01, 2026 @11:15AM (#46455220)
Explanations are not excuses.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by rockskon on Thursday January 01, 2026 @02:33PM (#46457232)
Financial incentives, while a large motivator for companies, are frequently not the exclusive one.

Google for quite a few years was seen as a good steward of the free and open Internet.

To assert people shouldn't feel betrayed because "it's a company" fundamentally ignores why people had different expectations for Google to begin with.

Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by acheron on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:04PM (#46460567)
When, 2001? By the time Chrome came out it had been clear that was not true for awhile.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by rockskon on Friday January 02, 2026 @06:37PM (#46470879)
Up until roughly 2010 Google was a pretty consistent advocate and activist for the open Internet.
Re:Web Browsers have stopped blocking pop-ups by CrossVR on Sunday January 04, 2026 @11:04AM (#46489228)
Because it was in their financial interest to do so. Their business is dependent on the internet after all.

The problem is that people are quick to assume a company is being altruistic just because the financial incentives happen to align with their own incentives.