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Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by dakiol on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @03:22PM (#46378896)
While the guy is brilliant, I doubt he could fit the role of senior/staff/principal engineer in any one-level-below faang kind of company. Typically, these roles require good communication skills and working together with other engineers (which is really hard). So, while he's very good at the tech level, I think he primarily works alone? In that regard, it would be a very bad fit. I may be wrong, tho.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by haunter on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @03:29PM (#46378935)
He is the co-founder and CTO of Amarisoft built on thechnology he developed

https://www.amarisoft.com/

https://www.amarisoft.com/company/about-us

https://bellard.org/lte/

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by anonymous908213 on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @03:55PM (#46379125)
Is it insecurity about yourself that leads you to baselessly speculate that an accomplished figure is unemployable?
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by dang on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @04:36PM (#46379496)
Please don't cross into personal attack, regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is. It only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by bpt3 on Thursday December 25, 2025 @09:03AM (#46384461)
What do you mean? You don't think that every software developer on earth secretly aspires to spend their days making tiny improvements to an advertising machine?
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by FpUser on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @04:16PM (#46379314)
>"In that regard, it would be a very bad fit. "

He might as well be but why would he give a flying fuck about it? He gets to do what he wants and is financially independent for doing just that. Most can only dream about it.

Myself - I do not come within a million miles to his professional level, but I still have managed to do just that - I develop what I want, how I want and get paid for it. I am 64 and still design and develop actively for my own company and for clients. Gives me happiness, motivation to stay alert and more than enough time to still do my hobbies (mostly various outdoor activities).

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by questionableans on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @03:43PM (#46379043)
In technically deep domains like Bellard works in, Staff+ roles bias more towards technical expertise, and managers also tend to be more technical and able to more completely address technical coordination tasks. Sometimes we like to assume that if someone is good at one thing, they’ll be bad at something more mundane (to make ourselves feel better), but I sincerely doubt he would have any trouble in such a role.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by kaffekaka on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @04:06PM (#46379207)
Yeah and can he do it on a cold rainy night in stoke?
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by dllu on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @03:58PM (#46379155)
The fact that so many people use FFmpeg and QEMU suggest that he is quite good at documenting, collaborating, and at least making his code remarkably clean and easy to follow. This already puts him way ahead of the average silicon valley senior software engineer that I've worked with. However, he does value independence so I don't think he would have been happy working at a faang-type company for long.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by averne_ on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @06:07PM (#46380271)
Not really. https://codecs.multimedia.cx/2022/12/ffhistory-fabrice-bella...

>Fabrice won International Obfuscated C Code Contest three times and you need a certain mindset to create code like that—which creeps into your other work. So despite his implementation of FFmpeg was fast-working, it was not very nice to debug or refactor, especially if you’re not Fabrice

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by adamors on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @03:41PM (#46379032)
Who cares about being a staff at FAANG lmao when he gets to do what he does currently?
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by encom on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @04:09PM (#46379244)
Employing Bellard at FAANG would be a tragic waste!
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by zelphirkalt on Thursday December 25, 2025 @09:10AM (#46384498)
I have a hunch he wouldn't accept such an ethically questionable role.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by rdtsc on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @04:31PM (#46379458)
> While the guy is brilliant, I doubt he could fit the role of senior/staff/principal engineer in any one-level-below faang kind of company.

Maybe but what’s the point? Hell, I might guess he is terrible at jiggling and basket weaving, too. Complete failure as wrestler, even. But that is kind of neither here or there. Or is it you think staff title at faangs is some kind of pinnacle position every engineer should strive for? It actually always strikes me as a funny title. In college when they didn’t have a specific professor to teach or just going to use a grad student they put “staff” in the name box so in my mind it’s associated with a random lower rung student who couldn’t get away doing just research.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by eichin on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @06:23PM (#46380386)
Yeah, staff engineer is a pinnacle "still doing engineering and maybe leadership but not management" position in engineering firms. The academic "staff" is just a "not really one of us" gatekeeping-the-servants title.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by inopinatus on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @04:33PM (#46379476)
At M.Bellard’s level one would could hardly even call such an outcome a character flaw, but my occasional privilege of managing - one should rather say, enabling - high performance teams, taught that the Venn intersection of “competent with imagination” and “collegiate manner” is far from empty, even in the tech sector.

“‘We're delighted to have you here,’ he said, ‘but a word of advice. Don't try to be clever. We're all clever here. Only try to be kind, a little kind.’ Like most university stories, this one is variously attributed and it probably never even happened but, as the Italians say, se non e vero, e ben trovato - even if it isn't true, it's well founded.” ⸺ Stephen Fry.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by kergonath on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @07:17PM (#46380815)
> I doubt he could fit the role of senior/staff/principal engineer in any one-level-below faang kind of company.

Why would he want to do that, though?

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by petermcd on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @08:29PM (#46381282)
Staff SWE at a FAANG here.

Fabrice Bellard is not a 10x engineer, he is a 100x engineer. You could attach him to a good people manager and either build a team around him or allow him to work independently on a project that he finds exciting that also aligns with company goals.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by rvnx on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @08:39PM (#46381316)
I think you are mixing up art, technical skills and productivity.

Put Terry Davis (again him) as senior manager at Apple, and see the result.

From my point of view, Terry has the same level and approaches as Fabrice.

It does not guarantee at all that he is going to be more productive than 100 engineers as you directly claim.

It makes them good in what they like to do (writing obfuscated or low-level code, or implementing from scratch from specifications) as art or creativity.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by petermcd on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @11:29PM (#46382070)
Thank you for introducing me to Terry Davis. I'm going to read more about him.

I am definitely not talking about art.

When I refer to 100x engineer, I'm referring to the impact that QEMU and FFmpeg have had on the world. I would be surprised if anyone who is familiar with these two projects would disagree that they have been highly impactful.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by rvnx on Thursday December 25, 2025 @07:19AM (#46383976)
Absolutely agreeing with you. I rather meant that scaling teams and being a great dev are not always going together (the same way that startup folks are often not the same type of people as managers in large companies), but in terms of technical impact I totally agree.

EDIT: Fair enough, I think he would be very productive due to useful contributions, at the end I agree with you.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by lomase on Thursday December 25, 2025 @04:13AM (#46383208)
Terry Davis had a mental dissease, you are a vile person.

I wish for you to one day have to face the same problems he did.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by rvnx on Thursday December 25, 2025 @07:18AM (#46383971)
Wow?!

There is no need to wish me harm because I compared two people who had the same similar tech level and approach as art, rather than pursuing productivity as a first goal.

Again sorry if that made you upset, I just wanted to share my train of thoughts:

It was to show that "tech skills" != "tech lead skills" + "tech skills" != "productivity".

In fact, sometimes great devs can be counter-productive, as they tend to write code that they are the only one who can maintain (bus factor), or optimizations that turns out to be net negative when working as a team.

Here it is a mixed bag, Fabrice is very productive at least as a solo contributor (c.f. FFmpeg or QEMU), but Terry obviously wouldn't be.

About the comparison, it may sound strange to you, but I am talking only about the tech-side to show that tech skills do not always align with human skills (or management, or team lead), and Terry seemed to me the perfect example of something completely disconnected.

In practice it is difficult to find other examples of people who wrote their own compiler, put a huge amount of energy, just for the sake of writing a compiler.

Thinking about of the most well-known projects: Bellard's "Obfuscated Tiny C Compiler" (which then became TCC), it's not that crazy to compare it to the "HolyC compiler".

Now outside, in their private life, they are very different, and nobody doubts that.

Side-note: I actually like very much what Fabrice does.

To your credit, again the two persons are NOT at all equivalent or comparable, just that the resulting works are, but for different reasons.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by lomase on Thursday December 25, 2025 @08:01AM (#46384159)
There is also no need to talk about a person with schizophrenia in a post about Fabrice Bellard.

What kind of point are you making?

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by rvnx on Thursday December 25, 2025 @08:13AM (#46384216)
I just needed an example that shows that it is not because you can write a compiler that it means you would be productive in a team at a FAANG.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by lomase on Thursday December 25, 2025 @05:14PM (#46387363)
He did work on Ticketmaster for some years on their own VAX operating system.

Then he had the dissease and could not keep working.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by zerr on Thursday December 25, 2025 @11:50AM (#46385506)
I don't think he would pass FANG interviews or enjoy their day-to-day grind. The whole point of such prolific programmers is to code whenever you feel like, not by some arbitrary deadlines. Not to mention the tolerance of office politics in those orgs.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by dustbunny on Thursday December 25, 2025 @12:06PM (#46385634)
"wouldn't pass fang interviews"

Bellard wouldn't apply and be interviewed like some Stanford grad. He would be head hunted and told he can do whatever he wants and receive a massive amount of compensation.

I'm not sure why you woulf assert he wouldn't pass the interview that seems totally outrageous.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by retinaros on Thursday December 25, 2025 @02:19PM (#46386456)
yeah lol. the interview is braindump on leetcode and sysdesign. two ways to pass it. do a lot of exercise/ learn the patterns or be an excellent programmer. there is 0 doubt he would have a full HIRE loop
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by zerr on Thursday December 25, 2025 @04:21PM (#46387115)
The thing is, being an excellent programmer has nothing to do with leetcode and sysdesign (which is actually a back-end CRUD systems) questionnaire.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by retinaros on Friday December 26, 2025 @08:26AM (#46391771)
it has something to do. an excellent programmer knows how to solve leetcode. maybe he never seen the problem but with he would ask a few questions that would help him get to the solution. and sys design is not a back end crud system questionnaire. it depends on the role but could be much more challenging.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by lekanal on Thursday December 25, 2025 @06:17PM (#46387680)
> I don't think he would pass FANG interviews

Given his alma mater and the way the French education system works, he performed too-of-France at “solve math problems on a blackboard in front of someone” after two years of grinding math problems including extensive practice for the aforementioned “solve math problems on a blackboard in front of someone”. I think he could manage. FAANG interview is basically a CS khôlle.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by lekanal on Friday December 26, 2025 @11:33AM (#46393582)
"top-of-France" not "too-of-France"
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by tommy92 on Wednesday December 24, 2025 @11:50PM (#46382144)
Lots of negative stereotypical assumption there. If you have some source backing all this, share your claims otherwise personal attacks without any serious base isn't a good reflection.
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by checker659 on Thursday December 25, 2025 @07:37AM (#46384051)
The amusing part is the implication that communication skills can't be learned, even by someone who's worked alone their whole career, if it came to that (*especially* by someone of Fabrice Bellard's calibre). Gatekeeping much?
Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by rramadass on Thursday December 25, 2025 @12:34AM (#46382345)
> I doubt he could fit the role of senior/staff/principal engineer in any one-level-below faang kind of company.

Why would you even think that these sort of exceptional people would even be interested in mere jobs?

These are people who are solo auteurs; something in them feels a need to express themselves in full creativity without restraint in any domain they choose to focus on. That is what makes them unique because they are the few who can change Science into Art and make it seem effortless. The common man calls them "Geniuses" but it is actually a way of living, thinking and training.

Much of Society's institutions, companies, jobs etc. is designed to get the most out of the average person which does not work for creative individuals. To measure the latter using the yardstick for average is foolish in the extreme. This is why true Scientists/Researchers/Artists etc. need to be treated very differently from the "common" man.

For all the hoopla about Corporations/Companies/Groups/Teams etc. in the modern world, all our civilizational breakthroughs have emerged from a single individual or a small group of individuals.

Re:Fabrice Bellard: Biography [pdf] by zero0529 on Thursday December 25, 2025 @09:37AM (#46384657)
A Fox one day spied a beautiful bunch of ripe grapes hanging from a vine trained along the branches of a tree. The grapes seemed ready to burst with juice, and the Fox's mouth watered as he gazed longingly at them.

The bunch hung from a high branch, and the Fox had to jump for it. The first time he jumped he missed it by a long way. So he walked off a short distance and took a running leap at it, only to fall short once more. Again and again he tried, but in vain.

Now he sat down and looked at the grapes in disgust. "What a fool I am," he said. "Here I am wearing myself out to get a bunch of sour grapes that are not worth gaping for." And off he walked very, very scornfully.

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