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Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by on_the_train on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:27AM (#46096900)
It's a deliberate click/ragebait, not a mistake. It makes People click and talk about it, just like it happens here.
Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by farresito on Sunday November 30, 2025 @10:15AM (#46097270)
This is the first time I read that someone uses an acronym for ragebait purposes. The acronym "RL" is very well known. Dwarkesh's podcast is mostly AI related, so it's not a surprise that he will freely use acronyms. I think your take is very cynical.
Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by jsnell on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:48AM (#46097071)
That is a bizarre take. Dwarkesh Patel is publishing in a very specific domain, where RL is a very common and unambigous acronym. I'd bet it was immediately clear to 99% of his normal audience, and to him it's such a high frequency term that people finding it ambiguous would not even have crossed his mind.

(Like, would you expect people to expand LLM or AGI in a title?)

Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by robrenaud on Sunday November 30, 2025 @11:26AM (#46097969)
RLVR is the more particular term of art in this domain.

VR stands for verified rewards and is the single bit per rollout that is the heart of the post. Maybe we can convince dang to update the title.

Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by gpvos on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:30AM (#46096927)
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by sidibe on Sunday November 30, 2025 @12:13PM (#46098459)
Ok so now it's stupid or malicious to use RL as reinforcement learning on a blog about AI where everyone in the field has been referring to it as RL forever? Even wikipedia puts (RL) after reinforcement learning.
Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by gpvos on Tuesday December 02, 2025 @04:30AM (#46119349)
That's the normal way to introduce an acronym in an article.

Anyway, I was just saying that however irritating, it's likely just an omission out of forgetfulness, not deliberate clickbait. A minor application of Hanlon's razor.

Seeing the downvotes and even a flag, it appears I'll have to lower my expectation of people's cultural baggage here.

Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by gpvos on Monday December 15, 2025 @08:16AM (#46274099)
Additionally, replying to "in the field" in GP: this is about the article title. You first have to know which field the article is in, which simply is not clear if you are an HN reader that happens to not be in that field.
Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by bbarnett on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:39AM (#46096990)
There needs to be a new law, applicable to posts on the Internet of any kind.

Because that law doesn't hold, when malice has a massive profit motive, and almost zero downside.

Spammers, popups, spam, clickbait, all of it and more, not stupid, but planned.

Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by dang on Sunday November 30, 2025 @01:51PM (#46099277)
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:RL is more information inefficient than you thought by on_the_train on Sunday November 30, 2025 @02:10PM (#46099433)
That doesn't, or shouldn't apply to the content itself. Because we all know how prevalent clickbait is.