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Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by tkgally on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @08:03PM (#45895169)
I hate to be the one to say this, but this article reads as though it was written by an LLM. The shallowness is one reason. Another is the lack of any individual voice that would suggest a human author.

And there are the unsupported citations and references:

The sentence “The World Economic Forum’s 2023 Future of Jobs report estimates 83 million jobs may be displaced globally, disproportionately affecting low- and mid-skill workers” is followed by a citation to a book published in 1989.

Footnote 7 follows a paragraph about Nietzsche’s philosophy. That footnote leads to a 2016 paper titled “The ethics of algorithms: Mapping the debate” [1], which makes no reference to Nietzsche, nihilism, or the will to power.

Footnote 2 follows the sentence “Ironically, as people grow more reliant on AI-driven systems in everyday life, many report heightened feelings of loneliness, alienation, and disconnection.” It links to the WEF’s “Future of Jobs Report 2023” [2]. While I haven’t read that full report, the words “loneliness,” “alienation,” and “disconnection” yield no hits in a search of the report PDF.

[1] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2053951716679679

[2] https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-repo...

Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by dwohnitmok on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @08:20PM (#45895292)
At this point I regularly see front-page HN articles that are LLM written (amusingly sometimes accompanied by comments praising how much of a breath of fresh air the article is compared to usual "LLM slop").

I worry about when I no longer see such articles (as that means I can no longer detect them), which likely will be soon enough.

Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @06:01PM (#45908128)
Love the optimism couched as pessimism. LLM training data doesn't do that.
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by edavison1 on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @08:28PM (#45895359)
Beyond the cringe of posting AI slop that 'argues' about eroding social norms and declining trust due to AI there's also this:

"The prestige and unmatched reputation of Communications of the ACM is built upon a 60-year commitment to high quality editorial content"

Hmmm. Ok whatever you say folks

Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by trinsic2 on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @09:30PM (#45895757)
thanks for pointing this out. The concepts in the article are important to me, but yeah thats weird.
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by xarope on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @12:51AM (#45896770)
I'm a member of the ACM, so I would report this article.

However, I think the author may just have made some mistakes and mixed up/-1'd their references, since the 2023 report is actually #2

2. Di Battista, A., Grayling, S., Hasselaar, E., Leopold, T., Li, R., Rayner, M. and Zahidi, S., 2023, November. Future of jobs report 2023. In World Economic Forum (pp. 978-2).

Similarly, Footnote 7 probably should probably point to #8

8. Nietzsche, F. and Hollingdale, R.J., 2020. Thus spoke zarathustra. In The Routledge Circus Studies Reader (pp. 461-466). Routledge.

Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by tgv on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @02:46AM (#45897391)
The Communications of the ACM no longer has an editor?
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by varjag on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @06:31AM (#45898883)
Possibly displaced by an LLM.
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by jameslarus on Friday November 14, 2025 @08:15PM (#45934173)
Nope, I'm still the Editor-in-Chief, and the last time I checked, I'm not an LLM. Nor are the other 100+ associate editors of the magazine.

I want to point out that this is a blog post appearing on the CACM website. It was not reviewed or edited by CACM, beyond a few cursory checks.

Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by varjag on Saturday November 15, 2025 @02:39AM (#45935737)
Now that makes more sense.

I guess it doesn't help that the post is formatted as a typical article with the bio blurb. It's worth distinguishing the blog entries more and perhaps posting a disclaimer. After all when people think of CACM they don't generally have blogs in mind.

Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by zarathustreal on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @06:55AM (#45899058)
Suppose you've managed to get a job as an editor at Communications of the ACM. As "Editor, Communications of the ACM" what do you think your job is?
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by cgio on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @02:29AM (#45897295)
A positive outcome of LLMs. Regardless if the specific article is AI generated or not, we become increasingly intolerant of shallowness. While in the past we would engage with the token effort of the source, we now draw conclusions and avoid the engagement much faster. I am expecting the quality of real articles to improve to avoid the more sensitive reader filters.
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by andai on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @07:24AM (#45899304)
I now notice myself cringe internally whenever I say anything that has become a ChatGPT-ism, even if it's something I always used to say.
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by johnisgood on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:49AM (#45912448)
I used to write very formally and neutrally, and now I don't, because it comes across as LLM-ish. My sentences used to lack "humanity", so to speak. :(
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by IAmGraydon on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @07:13AM (#45899210)
It was written by an LLM because it’s another hype piece for AI.
Re:Why Nietzsche Matters in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by indigo945 on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @09:56AM (#45901010)
In addition to this, another telltale sign of LLM authorship are the repeated forced attempts to draw connections or parallels where they're nonsensical, trying to fulfill an essay prompt that doesn't - in those instances - have much meat to it.

    > As AI systems increasingly mediate decisions [...], decisions once 
    > grounded in social norms and public deliberation now unfold within 
    > technical infrastructure, beyond the reach of democratic oversight.

    > This condition parallels the cultural dislocation Nietzsche observed in 
    > modern Europe, where the decline of metaphysical and religious authorities 
    > undermined society’s ability to sustain shared ethical meaning. In both 
    > cases, individuals are left navigating fragmented norms without clear 
    > foundations or frameworks for trust and responsibility. Algorithmic 
    > systems now make value-laden choices, about risk, fairness, and worth, 
    > without mechanisms for public deliberation, reinforcing privatized, 
    > reactive ethics.
Note how "algorithmic systems" making "value-laden choices" reinforcing "privatized, reactive ethics" has absolutely nothing to do with the spiritual value collapse that Nietzsche, who was uninterested in or even opposed to critiques of power structures, and who wasn't much impressed by the whole idea of democracy, saw in 19th century Europe. While the criticism of AI systems being beyond the reach of democratic oversight is a common and perfectly valid one, it just simply doesn't touch on Nietzsche's philosophy; yet the LLM piece uses language and turns of phrase ("parallels", "in both cases") to make it sound as if there were a connection.

If I am strongly opposed to anti-democratic opaque AI surveillance machines, then I am not an individual "left navigating fragmented norms without clear foundations", on the contrary, my foundations are quite clear indeed; and on the other hand, increased automation causing the erosion of "frameworks for trust and responsibility" seems more likely to be welcomed by Nietzsche, who had little patience for moral affectations like responsibility, than opposed.