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Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by embedding-shape on Monday November 10, 2025 @06:43AM (#45874976)
The Register, being British, should probably have gotten this right, but people constantly get this wrong. Even a lot of people living in the union don't even realize the different between EU, Europe, EEA, Schengen and all the other layers, so maybe it's hard to blame "outsiders" from not getting it either.

I'm guessing maybe the "European Commission" threw them off, because it's an EU entity (basically the executive branch), not "Europe wide" one, which the name kind of implies. But then "EU" also implies "Europe wide" in its name, and people seem to kind of get the difference most of the times.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by rsynnott on Monday November 10, 2025 @06:52AM (#45875038)
The Register know very well what the EU is. However, in practice, the EU is colloquially referred to as "Europe" in many contexts in the UK.

The rules the EU establishes will also apply to the EEA, and in practice will almost certainly also be adopted by the UK, which has tended to take its lead from the EU on such matters since Brexit. So, while pedantically these are not rules for Europe, _for practical purposes_ they likely will be.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by Aardwolf on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:06AM (#45875576)
What continent does UK consider itself part of then?
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by rsynnott on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:14AM (#45875647)
Context matters; you can generally tell whether someone's talking politics or geography.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by Aardwolf on Monday November 10, 2025 @05:32PM (#45881866)
But in politics the distinction between EU and Europe matters, there's the political EU region, but countries like Switzerland and Norway are politically still in Europe despite not being in EU just due to all the neighboring countries, in theory same should apply to UK
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by crote on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:36AM (#45875880)
It likes to believe it is somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by freehorse on Monday November 10, 2025 @09:35AM (#45876416)
Whenever I go to the UK, people there seem to consistently refer to EU or the rest/continental europe in general as "europe", esp in political/economic context. My impression is that the UK is just too important to be grouped together with other countries.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by mr_toad on Monday November 10, 2025 @10:24AM (#45876846)
Ask two different people and get three different answers.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by a2800276 on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:32AM (#45875319)
Also, most people are aware that "Europe" the continent is unlikely to make such decisions, so it's pretty obvious what's meant by context.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by ttoinou on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:13AM (#45875637)
There are others ways to coordinates european countries than EU institutions
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by littlestymaar on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:58AM (#45875521)
It's not obvious at all actually, since there are many European things that also affect Island, Norway and Switzerland for being part of EFTA, but an equally high number of things that don't.

And even the EU itself is pretty fragmented with various overlapping areas with different rules.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by ksec on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:24AM (#45875747)
>the EU is colloquially referred to as "Europe" in many contexts in the UK.

It really should have been EUR for Europe, and EU as in European Union.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by NoboruWataya on Monday November 10, 2025 @06:55AM (#45875062)
I think most people realise there is a difference. If nothing else, Brexit made it very clear to those who didn't already know that you can be in this part of the world but not in the EU. But rightly or wrongly, people still use "Europe" as shorthand for "the European Union". It's no different to referring to the US as "America".

I do think the media should aim to do better so agree that the Register should have used the correct term.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by jb1991 on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:12AM (#45875183)
I find your comparison not so convincing. While there is some common misidentification between the EU and Europe, I’ve never heard anyone in the world refer to “America” in a way that was not for the United States.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by wongarsu on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:39AM (#45875365)
"In 1492 Christopher Columbus discovered America" is a sentence I've certainly heard before, but he didn't at any point land on any area covered by the United States of America (except maybe Panama)

That ambiguity disappears if you call it "the Americas", but many places see America as one continent (including Latin America, parts of Europe and the Olympic flag)

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by umanwizard on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @08:33AM (#45887095)
I have no idea why this informative and totally correct comment was downvoted, but anyway, I upvoted it to balance that out.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by KAMSPioneer on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:26AM (#45875268)
In my personal experience, people from Latin American countries will sometimes point out that they are American because they come from North or South America.

Which is, of course, true; however, in English conversation, it's often nothing more than pedantry. In Spanish it makes more sense, since there is a separate demonym for a US person that doesn't co-opt the term "American."

Outside of Romance language speakers born on the American continents, I agree that everyone seems fine calling US-born persons "Americans" without much confusion nor gnashing of teeth.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by lazide on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:47AM (#45875432)
It’s even more amusing in some ways. A common way to refer to those from the USA in Brazil, for instance (even an official one!) is ‘Norte Americano’.

Which is all kinds of weird because - what about Mexico and Canada? And what about the ‘United states’ part?

It’s just to disambiguate from ‘Americano’ as in what others in South America sometimes use to refer to latin Americans and as a little bit of a FU to the USA, hahah.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by KAMSPioneer on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:55AM (#45875494)
Ahh, I forgot about that...and to be transparent, I actually have no idea what French Guyana, Haiti, or Belize typically do to differentiate between people of the American continent(s) and US persons. I should have said Hispanoamerica, but oh well.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by lazide on Monday November 10, 2025 @09:12AM (#45876200)
If I’ve learned anything in Brazil, it’s that it’s all good bro - as long as you aren’t Argentinian. Then we need to fight, or something hah.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by kergonath on Monday November 10, 2025 @10:26AM (#45876875)
> I actually have no idea what French Guyana, Haiti, or Belize typically do to differentiate between people of the American continent(s) and US persons.

In French, people from the Americas are américains. This includes, say québecois and Brazilians. When context matters, people from the US are états-uniens.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by umanwizard on Monday November 10, 2025 @10:32AM (#45876921)
Perhaps in Haiti, I don’t know. But at least in France, “américain” means from the US 99% of the time.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by kergonath on Wednesday November 12, 2025 @05:34AM (#45898557)
Probably because the US are much more mentioned than other American countries. But that’s not really the point, though. People from the US are américains, they’re part of the group of people living in America (which, in French and when it is not qualified, refers to all of them, North, Central, and South).

The point is that nobody would object if you refer to someone from anywhere else in the Americas as américain. Like my lab mate from Buenos Aires or friends from Montréal. And we’re definitely not in Haiti.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by jandrewrogers on Monday November 10, 2025 @11:41AM (#45877733)
North America also formally has two United States: Mexico and America.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by umanwizard on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:28AM (#45875287)
It is normal in Spanish-speaking countries (and probably others) to consider the entirety of North and South America to be one continent called “America”.

One of the most famous soccer teams in Mexico is even called “Club América”, obviously this doesn’t refer to the US.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by lazide on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:48AM (#45875440)
Kind of up to the US border. Canada gets lumped up in with the USA hah.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by Xenoamorphous on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:18AM (#45875686)
Maybe in English. In Spanish (and we’re a bunch, the native Spanish speakers) I guarantee that if you say “América” you’re referring to the continent. The country is “Estados Unidos” (United States) or its abbreviation, EEUU. And its citizens, “estadounidenses”, not “americanos”.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by liotier on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:28AM (#45875796)
> estadounidenses

And in French the inhabitants of "les Etats-Unis" are "Etats-uniens". I've taken the habit of referring to them as USAians, which often gets negative reactionsand remains rare - but I find it is the most accurate demonym and I'll keep pushing it.

I look forward to the world inventing demonyms for the citizens of the European Union, because at least it will mean that our emerging national body is getting mindshare !

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by mr_toad on Monday November 10, 2025 @10:30AM (#45876899)
Whenever I’ve heard the term américain it’s been used to refer to a US citizen, not a mexicain or citizen of some other American country.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by liotier on Monday November 10, 2025 @12:06PM (#45878035)
Yes, "Américains" is much more common - and that is the windmill I'm tilting at.
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by bmacho on Monday November 10, 2025 @11:08AM (#45877282)
> I look forward to the world inventing demonyms for the citizens of the European Union, because at least it will mean that our emerging national body is getting mindshare !

USA is a country and EU is not

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by liotier on Monday November 10, 2025 @12:12PM (#45878112)
The European Union is an emerging country - it is my country. For now, many don't yet understand how common necessity binds us, and some remain under the illusion that they can make it alone against China and the USA, but ever closer union is real and whoever has been on Erasmus student exchange knows we are one people. On my French passport, "Union Européenne" is written above "République Française" - that is the hierarchy. A nation is people who will to live together, and the European Union is that... The rest is a couple treaties and a few decades away !
Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by mschuster91 on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:37AM (#45875346)
And on top of that, when it comes to anything radio, ITU has quite the lot to say as well, and you got the ham radio community / IARU as well.

Radio, by virtue of physically not caring about borders, is a really really hot mess, with lots of very powerful and very monied interests floating around.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by umanwizard on Monday November 10, 2025 @07:26AM (#45875271)
You’re right, but this is probably a losing battle. People are probably never going to stop colloquially referring to the political entity that contains most of Europe’s land and population as “Europe”.

And, being on an island, British people are probably never going to stop thinking of “the continent” as at least a little bit of a different thing from themselves.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by TitaRusell on Monday November 10, 2025 @09:47AM (#45876520)
Switzerland is not in the EU but they follow EU legislation.

It's kinda like Canada and the US.

Re:Europe to decide if 6 GHz is shared between Wi-Fi and cel... by wkat4242 on Monday November 10, 2025 @08:51PM (#45883219)
Not directly though. They get some exceptions and they have referenda to implement things.

They align with the EU a lot for commercial reasons but not completely. Same with Norway. And really, if they did align completely there'd be no reason to not join.