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Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by kleiba on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:06AM (#45711077)
For Christian Advent to be exactly 25 days long, that would be a coincidence.

Advent is not the time from December 1st until Christmas, it starts on whatever days the fourth Sunday before Christmas happens to fall on that year. This way, there are exactly four Sundays in advent.

If Christmas itself should fall on a Sunday one year, it doubles as the fourth Sunday of Advent, i.e., then the first of Advent will be only three weeks earlier.

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:11AM (#45711113)
All correct. Which is why I said religious slash commercial tradition - Advent is first and foremost just another sales event, and for convenience of sellers and buyers (and their children) the commercial advent got regularized to 25 days, so the stock of calendars that failed to sell last christmas season can be put up to sale in the coming one.
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by kleiba on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:15AM (#45711146)
Agreed, I didn't mean to critique you!
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:20AM (#45711173)
I appreciate you working out the math above! :).

(I never could wrap my head around all this. I had enough problems with Easter events, where the math makes a detour through a Lunar calendar.)

EDIT: And my memory of the Tradition is wrong too, it's supposed to be 24 - as confirmed by https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45710618, and corroborated the two "Paw Patrol" themed Advent Calendars I just found still stashed in my home office.

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by kleiba on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:30AM (#45711245)
The Sunday after the first full moon after March 21st (first day of spring) - what could possibly be confusing about that?!

j/k ;-)

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by SJMG on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:55AM (#45711424)
Since we're all being exacting here… =p

> (first day of spring)

It's actually the March equinox. "Spring" is true only in the northern hemisphere. What's more it's the ecclesiastical equinox, not the astronomical equinox, whose date actually varies depending on the year.

Never mind that all this is descriptive of dating in countries that grew up with Western Christianity. Countries where Eastern traditions dominate often date it differently.

All good will to you both = )

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by kleiba on Sunday October 26, 2025 @09:36AM (#45711764)
+1 from me!
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 26, 2025 @08:32AM (#45711261)
I still find it easier to explain it as "14 Nisan *energetic hand wave*!!" :).
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by geerlingguy on Sunday October 26, 2025 @09:25AM (#45711661)
If I were Christmas of code, it would start mid-June and end on Christmas Eve!
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 26, 2025 @09:30AM (#45711724)
You're forgetting about Halloween, Black Friday/Cyber Monday, and the most recent Singles Day (11.11); the Commercial Calendar is steadily squeezing the Christmas Season into December and out of the rest of the year!
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by timeon on Sunday October 26, 2025 @10:11AM (#45712035)
Commercial Halloween starts during October just after or parallel with October-fest. It ends before end of October because people buy things for an event before it starts. End of Halloween is when Commercial Christmas starts.

There is no time for actual advent or winter calmness in general.

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by Ekaros on Sunday October 26, 2025 @11:39AM (#45712760)
Wouldn't winter calmness be January or February, maybe March? You know coldest time in general on Northern Hemisphere?
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by timeon on Sunday October 26, 2025 @11:46AM (#45712803)
I think you are right, that seems to be the case.
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by tjr on Sunday October 26, 2025 @03:56PM (#45714733)
I decided to indulge in a Dunkin' pumpkin donut this morning, what with it being late October and the weather actually now fall-like. Apparently they have already discontinued them!
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by toast0 on Sunday October 26, 2025 @01:19PM (#45713571)
> the Commercial Calendar is steadily squeezing the Christmas Season into December and out of the rest of the year!

We can only hope. The Christmas song containment fields are weakening as we speak.

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by tialaramex on Sunday October 26, 2025 @04:11PM (#45714853)
Right, my local grocery store moved Halloween stuff to where Diwali stuff was near the front of the store, and immediately put Xmas stuff where the Halloween stuff used to be, in a week's time it'll be a whole aisle of Xmas.
Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by bananaflag on Sunday October 26, 2025 @09:19AM (#45711610)
Anyway, this is Western Christianity.

In Eastern Christianity, the Nativity Fast starts on a fixed day: November 15.

Re:Advent of Code 2025: Number of puzzles reduce from 25 to ... by akho on Sunday October 26, 2025 @11:05AM (#45712469)
Which happens to fall on November 28th, yes.