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Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by krisoft on Sunday October 19, 2025 @04:14PM (#45637543)
> Apparently only one layer of the windshield was damaged

How does that square with the picture of the pilot’s arm with tiny cuts? Did the space debris only damage the internal layer? Something is not adding up to me here.

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by gnarlouse on Sunday October 19, 2025 @04:17PM (#45637566)
Maybe the outermost layers just transferred the energy to the innermost, which exploded tiny shards of glass? In general though, I agree, weird.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by Jalad on Sunday October 19, 2025 @04:47PM (#45637813)
And in tank warfare this is called spalling

A projectile hits the armor and doesn't penetrate it, but the armor inside still fragments and injured the operators

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by Aloisius on Sunday October 19, 2025 @05:49PM (#45638353)
There a picture of glass spall in the cockpit and it's not unusual for ballistics glass to spall when hit by a projectile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/1oalnx...

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by hinkley on Sunday October 19, 2025 @07:01PM (#45638812)
> Spalling

This was also adopted by The Expanse, where the interiors of ships (particularly war ships) are coated in antispalling coatings.

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by flashman on Sunday October 19, 2025 @08:07PM (#45639105)
didn't help Shed Garvey lol
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by hinkley on Sunday October 19, 2025 @08:45PM (#45639278)
My read is that it works mostly for battle shrapnel and space mining accidents and does nothing for kinetic weapons, hit or miss for micrometeoroids.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by kataklasm on Monday October 20, 2025 @08:42AM (#45643247)
Shed was killed by a railgun round. These are kinetic projectiles, spall lining doesn't do anything against those.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by hinkley on Monday October 20, 2025 @02:46PM (#45647592)
If it somehow could then aiming for the reactor would spin the ship so hard you’d pulp some of the crew.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by lotrjohn on Sunday October 19, 2025 @08:26PM (#45639185)
Hey bossman thanks for pointing this out. Will have to look for it next time I watch. Yam seng.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by hinkley on Sunday October 19, 2025 @08:42PM (#45639264)
It’s mentioned in the books, kopeng. I think it comes up in some of the repair scenes, but there’s such a jargon dump in many of them that it might slip by. Naomi is caressing some of it at one point, like she’s petting a cat. Which is not far off from how she sees the Roci.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by usefulcat on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:05AM (#45640300)
*bosmang. I'm not sure it's mentioned in the show, but it is in the books.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by hinkley on Monday October 20, 2025 @02:44PM (#45647564)
I can think of two in the show, but one is right before Holden needs to tell Nagata something important, and the other is in the middle of a brain dump at Tycho station when the Roci is being diagnosed for repairs.

Might have been a mention on the Agatha King.

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by hinkley on Sunday October 19, 2025 @07:03PM (#45638820)
That would be two layers though.

But the coloration in the window sure suggests spalling. I’m surprised the tempered glass did that much damage. That takes a lot of velocity. Which is probably why they aren’t thinking bird.

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by crazygringo on Sunday October 19, 2025 @06:50PM (#45638744)
Came here to ask the same thing -- something is missing from the reporting because this makes absolutely no sense.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by squirtle24 on Sunday October 19, 2025 @10:19PM (#45639680)
I suspect the cuts on the pilot's arm are from BEFORE the incident. The blood looks a pretty dried up and the yellowish streaks look like some kind of antiseptic ointment was applied. The oval shaped wound closest to the camera looks like it's been healing. Could be wrong though.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by Nition on Sunday October 19, 2025 @10:46PM (#45639822)
Now I'm just imagining the object hitting the window, the pilot looking down at his arm injury from the bowl of petunias that hit the plane yesterday, and thinking "not again."
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by jackgavigan on Monday October 20, 2025 @03:15AM (#45640800)
ISWYDT. :-)
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by robertlagrant on Monday October 20, 2025 @05:06AM (#45641620)
That pilot would not be having a whale of a time, that's for sure.
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by onionisafruit on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:02PM (#45639888)
Why would there be a picture of the arm circulating if the injuries are from another incident? I won’t dispute your analysis of the photo because I don’t know anything about the subject
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by squirtle24 on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:18PM (#45639939)
Edit: I take that back. Another photo has emerged showing more blood.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/1oalnx...

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None of the articles I have seen have said the lacerations are a result of the "space debris" incident. The linked article simply says "One of the photos shows a pilot’s arm peppered with small cuts and scratches", and which is not the same as "the pilot said the shattering glass caused the cuts you see on his arm."

I am saying it is possible that the pilot had a previous, unrelated injury, and it just so happened to be captured in the picture of the windshield. That picture is going viral because it was likely one of the first pics from the incident, but it does not mean his injuries are necessarily from the incident. I was only pointing this out based on the way the blood looked more dried up and treated/healing.

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by kijin on Monday October 20, 2025 @12:50AM (#45640263)
The pilot probably took the photograph after landing. There's no time to take selfies during an emergency!
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by MindSpunk on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:01AM (#45640294)
Not saying it's what's happened here, but it's very easy for someone to post any image and claim it's from the same incident. Get the post enough attention and if it seems genuine enough other people will share and repost without fact checking, then people will share and reposts the reposts, and so on.

Professional outlets do this all the time, and they're _paid_ not to mess this up. Copying other outlet's bad reporting without fact checking, then once a couple more "corroborating" articles come up (or one from a reputable outlet) and it'll just be repeated as fact, they can't all be wrong right?

Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by RealStickman_ on Monday October 20, 2025 @03:22AM (#45640840)
Making sure the plane continues to fly would be the top priority for a pilot. Second to that, formulating an emergency plan and communicating with air traffic control. Taking pictures of you wounds should be extremely far down the list
Re:Airliner hit by possible space debris by rkomorn on Monday October 20, 2025 @03:26AM (#45640856)
"Aviate. Communicate. Navigate." is so passé.

Now it's "Digitize. Publicize. Monetize."