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Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by righthand on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @09:59AM (#45592697)
Valve already has a headset out…well before Apple had one.

https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index/headset

Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by lynndotpy on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:07AM (#45592808)
Yes, and it's one of the best headsets for Linux :) But this is a tethered headset and the text rendering isn't good enough to justify one over a monitor (reportedly-- I haven't bought one yet). Especially because it's tethered.

But Valve is reliably rumored to be releasing an untethered successor within the next year for a third of the cost of the AVP. The appeal is having a dozen monitors anywhere.

Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by specialist on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @11:28AM (#45594082)
IIRC, Apple M4's 10-core GPU supports three 6K 60mhz displays. Enough for each eye and 1 virtual desktop.

Vision Pro M5 PR says something about 120mhz. So the M5's "40% faster GPUs" is being used to double the frame rate?

Being noob, I'm guessing each desktop requires 3 additional cores and 16Gb VRAM.

Of course, we can think of many strategies (using current hardware) to support additional desktops, spaces, windows, etc. If Apple really wanted to.

Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by 0x457 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @01:24PM (#45595787)
Apple SoCs have weird external monitor support purely because of SoC IO, not GPU power.

60mhz and 120mhz are your typos, because that's an insane refresh rate. It's 60Hz and 120Hz, not mhz...

> So the M5's "40% faster GPUs" is being used to double the frame rate?

You always have to read full marketing BS when you read it, it almost always says "X times faster than Y in Z workfload".

Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by specialist on Thursday October 16, 2025 @07:50AM (#45604243)
Am noob, so I hadn't considered the I/O. Thanks. I just assumed they'd use more pins (or now pads).

> "X times faster than Y in Z workfload"

Mosdef.

Also, reducing energy use (heat generated), mostly thru process improvements, allows each new generation to run that much faster.

Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by righthand on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:15AM (#45592920)
Probably along side HL3.
Re:Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip by pjmlp on Thursday October 16, 2025 @08:27AM (#45604507)
As did Microsoft, but as usual Apple "did it first".

It was incredible how much Vision Pro marketing was based on stuff Microsoft had demoed for HoloLens a couple of years before.