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Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by msbhvn on Sunday October 05, 2025 @04:16PM (#45484838)
Woah, read the timeline at the top of this. The fire happened the very day the government ordered onsite inspection was supposed to start due to Chinese/NK hacking.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by yieldcrv on Sunday October 05, 2025 @05:20PM (#45485390)
So, someone figured out how to do backups
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by southernplaces7 on Sunday October 05, 2025 @11:07PM (#45487300)
They certainly will after this.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by AnimalMuppet on Sunday October 05, 2025 @06:17PM (#45485801)
Yeah, this whole thing smells.

Who has the incentive to do this, though? China/North Korea? Or someone in South Korea trying to cover up how bad they messed up? Does adding this additional mess on top mean they looked like they messed up less? (And for that to be true, how horrifically bad does the hack have to be?)

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by mattmaroon on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:59PM (#45486354)
It might be different “they”s. Putting on my tinfoil hat, whoever was going to be in hot water over the hack burns it down and now the blame shifts from them to whoever manages G-drive and don’t have a backup plan.

Not saying I believe this (or even know enough to have an opinion), but it’s always important to not anthropomorphize a large organization. The government isn’t one person (even in totalitarian societies) but an organization that contains large numbers of people who may all have their own motivations.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by keepamovin on Sunday October 05, 2025 @09:30PM (#45486802)
If there was shady behavior, I doubt it’s about a cyber hack. More likely probably the current administration covering their tracks after their purges.

Alternate hypothesis: cloud storage provided doing the hard sell. Hahaha :)

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by mattmaroon on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @02:08AM (#45499865)
“It’d be a real shame if something happened to your data center…”
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by conductr on Monday October 06, 2025 @01:16AM (#45487853)
> whoever was going to be in hot water over the hack burns it down and now the blame shifts from them to whoever manages G-drive and don’t have a backup plan.

LG is SK firm and manufacturer of hacked hardware and also the batteries that caught fire. Not sure it’s a solid theory just something I took note of while thinking the same

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by mattmaroon on Monday October 06, 2025 @03:55AM (#45488776)
Interesting but same concept applies to organizations.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by jftr on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:14PM (#45486090)
Phrack's timeline may read like it, but it wasn't an onsite inspection due to hacking, but a scheduled maintenance to replace the overdue UPS, hence battery-touching involved. Even the image they linked just says "scheduled maintenance."
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by danudey on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:57PM (#45486347)
So right after the investigation was announced, they suddenly scheduled a UPS battery replacement which happened to start a fire big enough to destroy the entire data centre and all data or evidence?

Yeah, that's way less suspicious, thanks for clearing that up.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by naruhodo on Sunday October 05, 2025 @08:46PM (#45486593)
My mind initially went to a government cover-up, but then:

> 27th of September 2025, The fire is believed to have been caused while replacing Lithium-ion batteries. The batteries were manufactured by LG, the parent company of LG Uplus (the one that got hacked by the APT).

Could the battery firmware have been sabotaged by the hacker to start the fire?

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by PapaPalpatine on Sunday October 05, 2025 @11:31PM (#45487395)
That's exactly where my mind went!
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by lazystar on Monday October 06, 2025 @12:23AM (#45487621)
this was a plot in a Mr. Robot episode, heh. Life imitating art?
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by asimovDev on Monday October 06, 2025 @01:58AM (#45488080)
was there a battery hacking episode? I can't remember the show anymore, might be due in for a rewatch it seems.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by dijit on Monday October 06, 2025 @03:15AM (#45488495)
iirc that’s how they destroyed “steel mountain”.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by voidUpdate on Monday October 06, 2025 @04:57AM (#45489256)
They hacked the firmware of the UPSs inside e-corp to destroy all paper records. The steel mountain hack was messing with the climate controls using a raspi to destroy tape archives
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by KaiserPro on Monday October 06, 2025 @05:56AM (#45489624)
It could have.

But

replacing a UPS is usually done to right time pressures. the problem is, you can rarely de-energise UPS batteries before replacing them, you just need to be really careful when you do it.

Depending on the UPS, Bus bars can be a mother fucker to get on, and of they touch energised they tend to weld together.

With lead acid, its pretty bad (think molten metal and lots of acidic, toxic and explosive gas, with lithium, its just fire. lots of fire that is really really hard to put out.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by gtech1 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @03:00AM (#45500155)
Don't you have to put UPS's in bypass mode precisely for this reason while doing maintenance on them ?
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by KaiserPro on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @09:22AM (#45502750)
Yeah, but the problem is that the batteries are still full of juice.

Obviously for rack based UPSs you'd "just" take out the UPS, or battery drawer, and replace somewhere more safe, or better yet, swap out the entire thing.

For more centralised UPSs that gets more difficult. The shitty old large UPSs were a bunch of cells bolted to a bus bar, and then onto the switchgear/concentraitor.

for Lithium, I would hope its proper electrical connectors, but you can never really tell.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by positron26 on Sunday October 05, 2025 @09:07PM (#45486698)
UPS, check. Any kind of reasonable fire extinguisher, nah.

A Kakao datacenter fire took the de-facto national chat app offline not too many years ago. Imagine operating a service that was nearly ubiquitous in the state of California and not being able to survive one datacenter outage.

After reading the Phrack article, I don't know what to suspect, the typical IT disaster preparedness or the operators turning off the fire suppression main and ordering anyone in the room to evacuate to give a little UPS fire enough time to start going cabinet to cabinet.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by jychang on Monday October 06, 2025 @12:01AM (#45487535)
If the theory "north korea hacked the UPS batteries to blow" is true, though, then it makes more sense why fire suppression wasn't able to kick in on time.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by dmix on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:22PM (#45486135)
Supply chain interceptions can happen for batteries and other electronics being used.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by ruined on Sunday October 05, 2025 @08:21PM (#45486461)
look at the timeline again. this is the second fire.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by positron26 on Sunday October 05, 2025 @09:10PM (#45486709)
technically seems more accurate to say controlled burn
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by niffydroid on Monday October 06, 2025 @07:10AM (#45490092)
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2025/09/openreach-give...

Recently in the UK a major communication company had issues with batteries

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by trhway on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:39PM (#45486242)
Such coincidences do happen. 20 years ago the plane which was carrying all the top brass of the Russian Black Sea Fleet as well as the Fleet’s accounting documentation for inspection to Moscow burst in flames and fell to the ground while trying to get airborne. Being loaded with fuel it immediately became one large infernal fireball. By some miracle no top brass suffered even minor burn/injury while all the accounting documentation burned completely.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by southernplaces7 on Sunday October 05, 2025 @11:06PM (#45487296)
One hell of an act of God that... Believable though, given the consistent transparency and low corruption in the Russian government's administration.
Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by IAmBroom on Monday October 06, 2025 @10:37AM (#45491905)
Golf clap, lasting several minutes.

Bravo, old boy.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by madaxe_again on Monday October 06, 2025 @02:51AM (#45488347)
Quite a few of those top brass years later shot themselves in the head several times before jumping from a window.

Anyway, shoe production has never been better.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by postsantum on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:57PM (#45486340)
"NK hackers" reminds me "my homework was eaten by a dog". It's always NK hackers that steal data/crypto and there is absolutely no possibility to do something with it or restore the data, because you know they transfer the info on a hard disk and they shoot it with an AD! Like that general!

How do we know it's NK? Because there are comments in north-korean language, duh! Why are you asking, are you russian bot or smt??

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by bboygravity on Monday October 06, 2025 @09:51AM (#45491453)
The good news is: there are still off-site backups.

The bad news is: they're in North Korea.

Re:Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system... by IAmBroom on Monday October 06, 2025 @10:35AM (#45491883)
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"He appeared in Salt Lake City."