> so if two people or other creatures are fighting, one who is higher is generally at an advantage compared to one who is lower or lying on the ground
Tell that to a BJJ fighter.
Only an Anakin Skywalker vs Royce Gracey fight can settle this question once and for all.
I'll send the message via DJI drone.
Re:This map is not upside down
by DwnVoteHoneyPot on Thursday September 18, 2025 @04:58PM
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BJJ fighters still think higher up is an advantage. Body weight to press down on opponent, greater freedom of movement.
Re:This map is not upside down
by thomascgalvin on Thursday September 18, 2025 @06:02PM
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There are a lot of people who prefer to fight from guard.
Re:This map is not upside down
by worthless-trash on Thursday September 18, 2025 @11:55PM
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Thats the thing, just stand up... and you win the fight, they look stupid on the ground.
Yes, I did a horrible thing and made a joke.
We print black on white. Does that mean that words are bad and only defile the blank sheet?
What does the transition from white chalk on blackboard to black markers on whiteboard mean?
Re:This map is not upside down
by marcosdumay on Thursday September 18, 2025 @05:09PM
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That people will have fewer cases of lung cancer.
Plain chalk is carcinogenic??
I'd assume getting roughly anything in your lungs frequently enough is carcinogenic.
Damn nitrogen.
Re:This map is not upside down
by marcosdumay on Friday September 19, 2025 @10:16AM
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You have a point. Now that I went looking, most of the literature focus on silicosis, and there aren't many long-term studies that can tell us if it's carcinogenic or not.
It's very likely carcinogenic too, but now I don't know what to expect on the correlation, because it's possible that people die from it before they get the chance of developing a tumor.
But more cases of liver cancer.
Re:This map is not upside down
by potato3732842 on Friday September 19, 2025 @09:30AM
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What about green chalkboards and multi colored whiteboard markers?
We're deep in contrivance at this point.
Sounds like a new religion in the making!
Re:This map is not upside down
by GeoAtreides on Friday September 19, 2025 @03:38PM
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Socrates: Yes.
It's probably even dumber than this: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10676768/
Re:This map is not upside down
by nathan_compton on Friday September 19, 2025 @08:57AM
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I think its pretty weird to take this passage at face value. "Foucault's Pendulum" is, at least in part, about how facile this kind of yarn spinning is. Any prejudice or conclusion anyone might like to make is a few waves of the hand away from something that looks like a good argument.
Interestingly, Aristotelian physics would have described down as "the true, appropriate place" for material objects and "up" as the unnatural state, only produced by violence and bound to be corrected by the universe.
I don't remember the context in the book very well, but I remember thinking that the premise was that the speaker here (Lia) was somehow well-grounded in concrete reality, by contrast to the other super-mystical characters in the book -- that she could relate ideas to concrete human experience, while other characters were off in the proverbial cloud-cuckoo land.
Your point about Aristotle is well-taken.
> And high is better than low, because if you have your head down, the blood goes to your brain, because feet stink and hair doesn’t stink as much, because it’s better to climb a tree and pick fruit than end up underground, food for worms, and because you rarely hurt yourself hitting something above—you really have to be in an attic—while you often hurt yourself falling. That’s why up is angelic and down devilish.
You could also argue that because of gravity and potential energy, up is usually the result of purposive action and effort, while down is often the result of accident or neglect ("you often hurt yourself falling"). That potential energy (and wide-open space) can also be used for maneuvering, so if two people or other creatures are fighting, one who is higher is generally at an advantage compared to one who is lower or lying on the ground. The lower party has less energy available to direct toward the opponent, and usually less room to move, being more constrained by the presence of the ground.