Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by fawkesalbus on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:01PM
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Indiscriminately is a loaded term. There is always some reasonable suspicion. Usually law enforcement always knows which pockets of a city, neighborhood have more illegal activity and can act based on that prior information.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by ironman1478 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:08PM
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It is well documented they have detained people who are here legally.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by Tadpole9181 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:29PM
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Citizens who showed them a photo "Real ID"!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-d...
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by fawkesalbus on Friday September 12, 2025 @03:20AM
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He was interfering with the arrest, recording video etc. At least he didn’t get assassinated for exercising his first amendment rights like Charlie.
Your comment doesn't preclude the comment you're replying to being true.
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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by mothballed on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:31AM
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I'm a white country boy hick US citizen that was jailed by CBP on made up totalitarian bullshit that was completely false. No access to lawyer, shuttled around the state in a prisoner van, etc. No apologies, just unceremoniously dumped back out when no evidence found.
It can happen to you, it can happen to anybody.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by 1c2adbc4 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:46AM
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Please explain why that justifies this murder.
This is a thread about a murder, and you seem to be trying to make it be about something more convenient
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by mothballed on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:49AM
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I am not advocating for murder, this seems like a straw man
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by rektomatic on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:14AM
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Quit it with the fear mongering
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by mikepurvis on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:49AM
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If this white Canadian woman traveling to California can be jailed for two weeks, then it can absolutely happen to anyone: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...
As a Canadian, I'm refusing to travel to the US right now, despite working remotely for a US-based company.
It's not fear mongering, it's real. But my motivation isn't even just fear; staying home or choosing to travel elsewhere (Europe, Asia, Mexico) is standing with my countrymen against a regime that doesn't respect our sovereignty or even its own laws.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by fawkesalbus on Thursday September 11, 2025 @11:55AM
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It can be argued that a lot of this is falling into the slippery slope fallacy.
Also the media doesn’t always report the full story. Often the people arrested have some small/medium offense from years ago.
Unlikely to happen to legal immigrants.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by mikepurvis on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:03PM
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Nonetheless, I will continue to choose to spend my travel dollars elsewhere until the US administration is crystal clear that Canada is a sovereign country, due process is a thing, and vanning people off of street corners (regardless of their skin colour or immigration status) is not the way.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by TheCoelacanth on Thursday September 11, 2025 @01:06PM
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Many of them have a small offense that would justify them being turned away from the border, but not an offense that justifies detention.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by fawkesalbus on Thursday September 11, 2025 @03:11PM
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That’s fair. And if they can be turned away from the border, then they can be deported too.
It does not matter.
They even got the Supreme Court to affirm that the palette of your skin is a fine indicator of whether or not you spend the next couple of months in a cell for processing.
I am glad you possess the certainty that the leopards will never eat your face!