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Re:Older developers are down with the vibe coding vibe by t_mahmood on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:50AM (#45092326)
So, I am paying $20, for a glorified code generator, that may or may not be correct, to write a small function that I can do for free, and be confident about the correctness, if I have not been lazy to implement a test for it.

If you point out, with test it's also the same with any AI tool available, but to come to that result, I have to continuously prompt it till it gives me the desired output, while I may be able to do it in 2/3 iterations.

Reading documentation always made me little bit knowledgeable than before, while prompting the LLM, gives me nothing of knowledge.

And, I also have to decide which LLM would be good for the task at hand, and most of them will not be free (unless I use a local, but that will also use GPU, and add an energy cost)

I may be nitpicking, but I see too many holes with this approach

Re:Older developers are down with the vibe coding vibe by stavros on Monday September 01, 2025 @10:01AM (#45092749)
The biggest hole you don't see is that it's worth the $20 to make me overcome my laziness, because I don't like writing code, but I like making stuff, and this way I can make stuff while fooling my brain into thinking I'm not writing code.
Re:Older developers are down with the vibe coding vibe by t_mahmood on Monday September 01, 2025 @10:36AM (#45092972)
Sure, that can be a point, which is helping you overcome your personal barrier, But that can be anything,

That is not you were vouching for on the original comment. It was about saving time.

Re:Older developers are down with the vibe coding vibe by weard_beard on Monday September 01, 2025 @12:37PM (#45094216)
Not only that, but the process described is how you train a junior dev.

There, at least, the wasted time results in the training of a human being who can become sophisticated enough to become a trusted independent implementer in a relatively short duration

Re:Older developers are down with the vibe coding vibe by turtlebits on Monday September 01, 2025 @01:16PM (#45094609)
Your time isn't free, and I'd certainly with more than $20/month.

I find it extremely useful as a smarter autocomplete, especially for the tedious work - changing function definitions, updating queries when DB schema changes, and writing http requests/api calls from vendor/library documentation.

Re:Older developers are down with the vibe coding vibe by t_mahmood on Monday September 01, 2025 @05:43PM (#45096894)
Certainly, So I use an IDE, IntelliJ Ultimate to be precise.

None of the use-cases you mention requires LLM. Just available as IDE functionalities.

IntelliJ has LLM based auto complete, with which I am okay, But it still wrong too many times. Works extremely well with Rust. Their non-llm autocomplete is also superb, which uses ML for suggesting closest, relevant match, IIRC.

It also makes refactoring a breeze, I know what it's going to do exactly.

Also, it can handle database refactoring to a certain capacity! And for that it does not require LLM, so no nondeterministic behavior.

Also, the IDE have its own way of doing http requests, and it's really nice! But, I can use their live template to do autocomplete any boilerplate code. It only requires setting once. No need to fiddle with prompts.