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Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by dingnuts on Thursday July 31, 2025 @07:25PM (#44751362)
people call buying a house to live in an investment but that's because they don't know the technical term is a "hedge"

so you know: most localities do treat the house you live in very differently from a tax perspective than they do any additional properties you might have, because everyone is born short housing, until they own 1 place to live.

so yes, the proposed bailouts up thread would be for people who bought a house because they didn't want to be short housing; a hedge, not an investment.

also if the house has hedges then your hedges are a hedge. I'll see myself out

Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by susiecambria on Thursday July 31, 2025 @07:58PM (#44751595)
Buying a house is more than an "investment" though: It's achieving the American dream. And while this dream might have been a farce, it's like everything else in that you hear it enough combined with not understanding the economics and policies underlying home ownership and the lie is reality.

And let's not even get to your point about hedges. I don't know many people that can define it let alone consider housing as a hedge.

Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by SR2Z on Thursday July 31, 2025 @10:58PM (#44752601)
Basically everyone considers housing as a hedge - homes are expected to grow steadily in value or at the very least not depreciate.

This is not a good policy goal, but the fact is that the wealth of the American middle class is mostly stored in property, and tanking property values would be a disaster for a broad swath of society which otherwise only has long-term retirement accounts to rely on.

They will vote to protect their interests, no matter how badly it screws their kids or contributes to homelessness.

Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by willis936 on Friday August 01, 2025 @04:38AM (#44754334)
If the house price goes down you don't lose the house. You just end up paying more for it than you could have if the price was lower when you bought it. You are just keeping your promise to pay your mortgage. This whole "unrealized gains need to be compensated" thing is insane. Responsible policymakers would ignore such greedy, self-centered, anti-community sentiments.
Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by smus on Thursday July 31, 2025 @11:47PM (#44752835)
Many people have places to live without owning a house. Me for example!
Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by jvanderbot on Friday August 01, 2025 @01:06AM (#44753176)
Ah a counter example to a probablistic argument. Whodathunkit
Re:Denver rent is back to 2022 prices after 20k new units hi... by nkmnz on Friday August 01, 2025 @04:05AM (#44754144)
Buying a house is investment. Living in a house you own is consumption.

These are two distinct things that are coupled through life choices. It's a real pity that tax regulations are different just because you make individual life choices.