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And that gives you the right to enforce your schedule changes onto them?

What’s next? Touch-grass-as-a-Service?

You don’t seem to get it. People with kids are actually taking the metro at 5. How do you think the trash is collected in the early morning hours? The newspaper delivered? The bread baked? The shelves filled? The streets cleaned? Are those jobs only done by people without children?

Where I live, teachers teach for <20 hours a week (<30*45min), 40 weeks a year. I bet there's some room for a second shift ;)

You confuse "not wanting the government manipulating everybody's clock" with "wanting to manipulate other people's schedule".

You confuse two things. Not manipulating the clock doesn't mean that anyone forces the other changes we've discussed here upon you. We're just criticizing the fact that people point to the concept of DST and try to tell us that it's A) for our own good (it isn't), B) the only way to get more daylight (it isn't), and C) a solution to a societal problem (it isn't)

> there are some very tangible benefits when everyone starts working at the same hour

This must come from an office worker, dropping their child off at school or day care at 8, doing some chores until 9, starting work at 9:30 - or something like that. I suggest you take the bus or the metro once at 5 in the morning. You'll see plenty of people going to work. Maybe it's a local thing, but public services in Germany often start at 6 so that they can finish work before citizens start calling (and so that they can leave early and benefit from everything else still being open).

Also, there are mechanics that fix my car in the middle of the night when it breaks down – but I have to pay a membership fee, otherwise, it would be unaffordable. There are also plenty of doctors willing to work a night shift, but since we have socialist health care in Germany, it's difficult to pay them a premium - so that leaves those who triage by acuteness, not by price.

Exactly like that. Open office hours from the current start of school (Ts) -2h with supervision, self study, project work. Then regular classes from Ts +2h until the current end of school (Te) -2h, with the same offering of study time until T2 +2h. Total time in school can be reduced by 2h or increased by 2h compared to today, based on grades. Of course it will cost money. But don't get me started on the cost of having many children not fulfilling their academic potential because they are tired due to biological incompatibility with the Prussian ideal of the morning person. And now let's speak about childhood depression... or about the fact that 60% of ADHD diagnoses amongst teens vanish once their sleep is fixed.

> You are waking up into dark and going to school/work anyway.

You're spot on. Now change the problem, not the symptom.

That's mostly true(*), and we should work on making the opt-out a standard procedure where ever possible.

Instead, the public discourse centers around which minority can force the majority to follow their preferred terms in the social contract. At best, it's a zero sum game - most likely, it's a net loss for everyone if we include all externalities, especially the suppression of discussions about more individuality.

(*) DST is not a social contract, it's entirely made up by the law.

P.S.: it's not even a question of personal preference. It's a question of scientific evidence. Even if you don't believe that most of these benefits apply to most people, you're free to bring evidence about the benefits of early-evening light exposure...

Evidence-backed benefits of morning light exposure:

Advances the circadian clock, helping shift the body's biological night earlier. Randomized controlled study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24179293/

Promotes earlier sleep timing and may improve subjective sleep quality. Systematic review of 45 studies: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30670164/

Improves alertness, attention, and reaction times, although average effects are small. 2025 systematic review and meta-analysis of 150 studies involving 5,401 participants (daytime light, not exclusively morning): https://doi.org/10.1080/15502724.2025.2493669

Helps treat seasonal depression (SAD). Systematic review and network meta-analysis of 17 randomized trials involving 773 patients: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40629637/

Can improve outcomes in nonseasonal depression when bright-light therapy is added to treatment. 2024 meta-analysis of 11 randomized trials involving 858 patients: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39356500/

Natural daylight exposure helps synchronize the biological clock with the solar day. Experimental research found that exposure to natural light-dark cycles advanced circadian timing compared with modern indoor lighting environments: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23910656/

Depends on your personal preference. It's ridiculous that the politic topic is the question "should most of us suffer in the morning or should most of us suffer in evening", instead of "how could we allow for more flexible individual schedules", especially when it comes to school, opening hours of public services, and store hours.

Sunset isn't changed by DST. You adjust your schedule. You're free to do so on your own terms, without the government forcing everyone to do the same shift at the same time for the same amount of time.

Thanks for explaining!

Current or most recent data is very expensive, indeed, but researchers as well as governments should have access to data that allows them to measure the rates of change across time and extrapolate them, no?

In some countries, but not in others. Also, panels sold ≠ panels installed (as I can confirm by looking into my own garage...)

I would guess that this is taken into account based on satellite data. Solar must have a direct line of sight to the sun, so it should be fairly easy to detect from the sky.

As someone who's never ran for the past 25 years it's surprising I never knew.

The only way for the far right to win the second round is to end up against Mélanchon, so what you write is totally in line with what Le Pen would want you to propagate.

Modern democracy is not about enforcing the populates will whatever that is. It’s about limiting tyranny.

Democracy is not about figuring out who’s most competent at the job, it’s about being able to get rid of everybody in power at some point without using weapons or waiting for them to die of natural causes. A term limit is a very good idea and I’d even implement it for legislators and other government officials.

Thank you! Learning something new every day :)

Missing from the article: Node2Shell https://www.imperva.com/blog/node2shell-from-brotli-data-to-...

Any reason you call yourselves Flemish and not Dutch? I always thought Flemish is the language and Dutch the nationality?

> I condemn this extrajudicial activity

The U.S. spent years explaining to the world that nothing is extrajudicial that happens to non-Americans outside of the United States. So please explain how this activity of the MIVD broke any Dutch laws.

You do know "freedom of speech" doesn't apply exclusively to the act of speaking, and "freedom of opinion, not freedom of speech" still includes the act of speaking your mind?

Also, the swastika predates the NSDAP by millennia. It's still not allowed to use it in a context where it means "death to all Jews". Same is true for the slogan "from the river to the sea".

"Well, the nazis tried it with the Jews, now you are trying this with Russians."

This is what you wrote. You think the guy you've answered to is closer to doing Nazi things to the Russians by making this joke, than the Russians are to doing Nazi things to the Ukrainians by actually murdering them in the hundred thousands using bombs, missiles, guns, forced deportation and forced assimilation? You Gremlins really cannot take a joke. That's probably why you don't like to see a comedian as head of a sovereign state.

Except that it's a literal citation from the 2017 Hamas charta, Section 20:

"Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea."[0]

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20170510123932/http://hamas.ps/e...

Also, there is no free speech in Germany. There is freedom of opinion and expression thereof. I'm not an advocate of that, but it's also not arbitrary.

Landtag, Bürgerschaft, Bürgerschaft, Landtag, Abgeordnetenhaus – are you aware of the concept of division of powers? These parliamentary initiatives don't matter in any way. They are cheap talk or "Gratismut" because they have no legal consequences, and they do absolutely NOT initiate a proceeding. The government of a state must petition at the BVerfG. You had figured that out by yourselves if you had put in the effort to read any of the links you've posted: none of them creates a law that forces the state's government to act in Karlsruhe. These are "Entschießungsanträge". Nothing more than smoke shows to impress people like you who don't care about the rule of law, or don't know any better. You're really easy to impress and to mislead.

So let me ask you again: why were they willing to create Entschließungsanträge, but why weren't they willing to go to Karlsruhe?

They arrest you for saying that because it's considered "use of symbols of unconstitutional and terrorist organisations"[0] – you're absolutely free to demand a single state solution under Palestinian rule, you're just not allowed to promote Hamas and their slogan.

[0] https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_st...