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Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by __loam on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @11:13PM (#44589333)
It sucks that we're living in a landscape where bad actors take advantage of that way of doing things.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by KTibow on Thursday July 17, 2025 @12:00AM (#44589582)
It sucks more that Cloudflare/similar have responded to this with "if your handshake fingerprints more like curl than like Chrome/Firefox, no access for you".
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by edoceo on Thursday July 17, 2025 @12:14AM (#44589653)
Or getting a CAPTCHA from Chrome when visiting a site you've been to dozens of times (Stack Overflow). Now I just skip that content, probably in my LLM already anyway.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by realusername on Thursday July 17, 2025 @01:27AM (#44589972)
It's the same thing as the anti pirate ads, you only annoy legit customers, this agressive captcha campaign just makes Stackoverflow drop down even faster than it would normally by making it lower quality.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by codingminds on Thursday July 17, 2025 @01:45AM (#44590080)
Keep in mind that those LLMs are one of the bigger reasons why we see more and more anti bot behaviour on sites like SO.

That aggressive crawling to train those on everything is insane.

Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by NoMoreNicksLeft on Thursday July 17, 2025 @09:38AM (#44593273)
I now write all of my bots in javascript and run them from the Chrome console with CORS turned off. It seems to defeat even Google's anti-bot stuff. Of course, I need to restart Chrome every few hours because of memory leaks, but it wasn't a fun 3 days the last time I got banned from their ecosystem with my kids asking why they couldn't watch Youtube.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by tomrod on Sunday July 20, 2025 @12:39AM (#44622029)
Where can I learn more about custom bots in JS and Chrome?
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by EPendragon on Thursday July 17, 2025 @09:47AM (#44593390)
There are tools like curl-impersonate: https://github.com/lwthiker/curl-impersonate out there that allow you to pretend to be any browser you like. Might take a bit of trial and error, but this mechanism could be bypassed with some persistence in identifying what is it that the resource is trying to block.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by sltkr on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @11:42PM (#44589475)
The really bad actors are going to ignore robots.txt entirely. You might as well be nice to the crawlers that respect robots.txt.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by PeterStuer on Thursday July 17, 2025 @01:00AM (#44589838)
Even if you want to play nice, robots.txt is a catch-22, as accessing it is taken as a signal you are a 'bot' by malconfigured anti-bot 'solutions'.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by chasebank on Wednesday July 16, 2025 @11:54PM (#44589539)
Bad actors will always exploit whatever systems are available to them. Always have, always will.
Re:I was wrong about robots.txt by Perz1val on Thursday July 17, 2025 @03:56AM (#44590824)
Because if they play by the rules, they won't be bad actors