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Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by galangalalgol on Saturday July 12, 2025 @05:37PM (#44545401)
The only time I've used anything but firefox for the last. Well probably since netscape honestly? I am so old. Is to get the in flight entertainment to work on american, but firefox has worked for that for a few years now. People say chrome is faster and in the early 2000s I might have agreed, but now I really don't understand why anyone not on a mac or iphone isn't using Firefox. It is great.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by nfriedly on Saturday July 12, 2025 @05:59PM (#44545553)
Firefox is great on Mac too.

You have a point about iPhones, though. It's almost pointless, but not quite: it does get a few features, like cross-platform sync. "Real" Firefox is one of the things that keeps me on Android.

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by galangalalgol on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:04PM (#44545589)
Can you still get real Firefox on mac? I thought they forced chromium on there now too? The only time I got MacBook I put linux on it within a few months.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by SllX on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:46PM (#44545846)
So a couple of things.

1) Apple would never force "Chromium" on any of their platforms. You might be mistaking it for WebKit, but browsers are not required to use Apple's shipping version of WebKit on a Mac either.

2) Firefox on every single platform not on the iPhone & iPad uses and has always used Gecko. I'm not aware of any other exceptions besides those two platforms, but the Mac definitely isn't one of them.

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by nicoburns on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:57PM (#44545918)
macOS isn't locked down like iOS. There are things like SIP which prevent some hacking/customising of the system, but:

1. These can all be disabled by advanced users (largely without consequence)

2. They dont prevent things like installing apps or even gaining root access in the first place.

The very fact that you can install Linux is evidence of the different approach taken with macs (you can't easily install Linux of ios devices)

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by galangalalgol on Saturday July 12, 2025 @07:52PM (#44546251)
The last macbook I owned had an Ethernet port, so I wasn't sure how much had changed in the interim. I knew that had added some lockdown and I wasn't sure how much. That seems like a reasonable compromise.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by pdpi on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:41PM (#44545814)
I assume that, by Chromium, you mean WebKit. At any rate, how or why would they have blocked Firefox on a machine where you can compile your own code?
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by tmnvix on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:14PM (#44545648)
> Can you still get real Firefox on mac?

I have always been able to.

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by MangoToupe on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:37PM (#44545782)
You can use whatever you want on macos
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by nfriedly on Saturday July 12, 2025 @08:33PM (#44546444)
Yep, you can run Firefox on every Mac released for the past couple of decades. (Maybe more?)

Most of them also work with Linux, although it's a little more spotty on the more recent ARM-based ones ("apple silicon").

Macs are essentially "real computers" that you can run whatever software you want on, whereas iPhones and iPads are much more locked down. (Even when they have the same CPU.)

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by Sunspark on Sunday July 13, 2025 @12:26AM (#44547500)
Yes, and the different browsers on iOS are all actually just skins on top of Safari's WebKit.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by technofiend on Saturday July 12, 2025 @08:32PM (#44546438)
I recently discovered that my jetkvm won't work on chrome, firefox or safari in macos, even after trying various workarounds to enable webrtc. The fix was to boot up Fedora in parallels and use Firefox there. In fact I'm thinking about shifting all my browsing to that combination just for further isolation.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by omnimus on Sunday July 13, 2025 @04:49AM (#44548665)
I am pretty sure jetkvm works on macos browsers. We have two in office where most people have macs.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by technofiend on Thursday July 17, 2025 @11:15AM (#44594288)
I wish I knew what you're doing to make to make it work.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by Melatonic on Saturday July 12, 2025 @08:43PM (#44546493)
Orion browser using Firefox plugins I have found to work quite well on iOS
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by pkaeding on Saturday July 12, 2025 @10:05PM (#44546895)
I tried to use Orion as my daily driver on Mac OS (instead of Firefox) but I couldn't get the simplelogin extension to work (it wouldn't authenticate to my account). Also, it was slower than FF (I know, everything says that it is super fast, but that wasn't my experience).

After a month or so, I gave up and switched back to FF.

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by Melatonic on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @12:45PM (#44573140)
Yeah on macOS itself I would stick to Firefox. iOS still bans any other browser engine though so Orion is my go to
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by tmnvix on Saturday July 12, 2025 @06:13PM (#44545644)
> I really don't understand why anyone not on a mac or iphone isn't using Firefox

I'm on a mac and happily use Firefox. Have done for over a decade. It would take a lot to encourage me to move to a proprietary browser (Edge, Chrome, Safari).

Maybe I'm out of touch, but the attachment to Chrome that some people seem to have (despite the outright privacy abuse) is baffling to me. I mean, ffs, are a couple of minor UI compromises (not that I experience any - quite the opposite) enough to justify what I consider a frankly perverted browser experience? I'm inclined to conclude that some people have little self respect - being so willing to metaphorically undress for the big G's benefit.

Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by mirekrusin on Saturday July 12, 2025 @08:09PM (#44546336)
They just don’t know. If you show them internet without ads they are amazed that something like that is possible.
Re:Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update by bornfreddy on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:02PM (#44552204)
That might be true for normal users, but there are many developers who still use Chrome or its derivates in 2025. What excuse do they have?