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Congratulations PG on the coming child

I wish you both all the joy and blessings which a child brings. The up side is you're used to short nights from the startup lifestyle, so you can pull the night shift with the kid!

But in all seriousness, congratulations and I wish you all the best :)

( 52 comments | 149 points | on HN )
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by fallentimes on Thursday January 22, 2009 @12:20PM (#445054)
Why is everyone just congratulating PG? Livingston is the one who has to carry it around for 9 months and give birth.

Kidding kidding, but congrats to Jessica too!

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by indiejade on Thursday January 22, 2009 @01:13PM (#445141)
Indeed, congrats to Jessica & Mr. PG.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by igorhvr on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:33AM (#444788)
Congratulations!

On the humorous side, this reminds me of this story: http://edward.oconnor.cx/2005/04/rms

(Richard Stallman speaks a bit about having children)

The funniest part is:

"It doesn’t take special talents to reproduce, even plants can do it. On the other hand, contributing to a program like Emacs takes real skill. That is really something to be proud of.

It helps more people, too."

One more link that made me laugh a lot (again, Stallman): http://www.art.net/Studios/Hackers/Hopkins/Don/text/rms-vs-d...

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by davidw on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:44AM (#444811)
Anyone can have kids, but to raise them well is a hell of a lot of work.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by kajecounterhack on Thursday January 22, 2009 @06:14PM (#445564)
Haha, too bad outsourcing would be bad conventions.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by jjs on Thursday January 22, 2009 @08:23PM (#445754)
And raising them to be emacs contributors, even more so!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by koningrobot on Friday January 23, 2009 @07:39AM (#446297)
If it's such a painful hell of a lot of work, why do it? Why have kids if it's impossible to raise them well?
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by sheats on Friday January 23, 2009 @08:48AM (#446342)
Good thing your parents didn't think that =)

Having a child (I have one) is a big responsibility but the joys far outweigh the work. I think, for me, the thing that I like the most is it gives me plenty of opportunities to learn not to be selfish but instead invest my time and energy into someone else.

And I would submit that it is not impossible to raise them well -- you just need to approach it the right way and educate yourself on the matter.

Congrats PG! I look forward to your essays on the matter.

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by koningrobot on Sunday January 25, 2009 @03:27PM (#449461)
Well, if my parents had thought that, then I wouldn't have to spend fourty hours a week sitting at a computer like a zombie. And that's just to be able to survive so that I can do more such work!

As for raising children... It really is impossible to raise them well. Every decision is a compromise and even if one choice is obviously better, it's just the lesser of evils. And those evils could have been prevented if the kid hadn't been born.

(I suppose I'm trolling, but this subject is so near and dear to me that I can't resist.)

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by unalone on Thursday January 22, 2009 @02:56PM (#445281)
Unlike emacs, kids actively seek out glitches. :-)
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by rsheridan6 on Thursday January 22, 2009 @11:27AM (#444964)
If only rms's parents had known that.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by fiaz on Thursday January 22, 2009 @08:42AM (#444723)
The ultimate startup

Congrats!

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by aaronblohowiak on Thursday January 22, 2009 @03:26PM (#445317)
It is peculiar that we congratulate people on completing a compulsive bodily function.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by sanj on Thursday January 22, 2009 @06:50PM (#445629)
Except that we're not.

For many of us, the advent and wide deployment of birth control allows us to choose if and when we decide to procreate. Part of the downside of this is that we're often waiting until we're older before we decide to have kids.

It'd be inappropriate for me to comment on JL's age, but from experiences personal and nearby, getting pregnant has the potential to be stressful, depressing, and exciting. And at times it just doesn't happen.

Congratulations are in order because they've decided to take a chunk of their lives and time to take responsibility for another human being. And because the deep-seated happiness that comes from it is a gift worth congratulations.

ps. congrats!

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by tdavis on Thursday January 22, 2009 @03:45PM (#445344)
I think it's a sort of "I'm happy you're happy" thing. Whenever I congratulate someone on having a child, I'm not literally congratulating them on having sex and spawning another human. That would be silly.

Although, there are many couples who can't get pregnant who would like to, so in cases like that, maybe literal congratulations would be in order?

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by flashgordon on Thursday January 22, 2009 @06:53PM (#445632)
actually thats not true... we are congratulating the birth, not the conception!!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by steelhive on Thursday January 22, 2009 @02:58PM (#445286)
So, er, this would be an XX/XY-combinator?
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by afri-silicon on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:34AM (#444791)
Congrats

Here in Kenya, the kids born around now are either Obama (boy or Michelle (girl)

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by herdrick on Thursday January 22, 2009 @01:27PM (#445165)
Really? Even among the Kikuyu and Luhya?
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by afri-silicon on Friday January 23, 2009 @02:18AM (#446105)
All of them, even Kamba, Miji-Kenda, Luhya and many others.By the way, we are 42 tribes in Kenya.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by herdrick on Saturday January 24, 2009 @04:46AM (#447958)
That's pretty amazing. I hope his popularity there lasts. May I ask what's your tribe?
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by muriithi on Friday January 23, 2009 @02:01AM (#446091)
afri-silicon you need to update your profile to include at least an e-mail.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by afri-silicon on Friday January 23, 2009 @02:25AM (#446112)
Done
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by fallentimes on Friday January 23, 2009 @11:39AM (#446562)
It only shows up to other users when you put it in the "about" field.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by yan on Thursday January 22, 2009 @08:22AM (#444712)
As I said before: pg&jl made someone that will hopefully make something people want. It'll need to be more than three months though :P
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by Prrometheus on Thursday January 22, 2009 @12:20PM (#445058)
And more than $5,000!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by rman666 on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:02AM (#444748)
Seeing yourself in your child is a most amazing thing, and sometimes a scary thing because you will then see your parents in yourself (maybe for the first time). Take tons and tons of pictures, because they grow very fast -- so fast that time for you will go by faster as you/they get older. Best wishes for a happy and healthy child, Mom, Dad, and family. Helping with schoolwork can be worse than changing diapers. When things are rough the first year, remember: these are the good years!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by eduardoflores on Thursday January 22, 2009 @10:27AM (#444866)
Congratulations! Expect some change on how you see the world. At least, that was for me with my two kids. I look forward to read the essays to come...
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by xenophanes on Thursday January 22, 2009 @10:29AM (#444875)
What change did you see?
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by eduardoflores on Thursday January 22, 2009 @01:32PM (#445171)
I'm a more joyful person now, though more conservative also. Less selfish, more concerned about the future... and a lot of small changes...
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by grosales on Thursday January 22, 2009 @11:21AM (#444949)
Congrats Paul, wish you the best! How long are you going to wait 'til you start teaching him/her lisp?
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by davidw on Thursday January 22, 2009 @11:35AM (#444982)
I'm personally of the idea to leave kids out of your own profession. If they're curious and ask questions, sure, show them things and help them satisfy their interest, but don't push it beyond that. That should hold true for anything they're curious about, though.

Too early for my daughter in any case; right now in terms of computer interaction she's limited to watching videos of babies and animals on Youtube, and attempting to grab and drool on the microphone when we talk with her grandparents via Skype.

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by kajecounterhack on Thursday January 22, 2009 @06:17PM (#445571)
Really? I've always felt as if my dad being a software engineer really helped me foster a love for compsci. I mean, if he never said "hey son come here and check this out -- you can transfer stuff to the internet with this black box (cmd) and make cool pages your friends can see (websites in bare html)" -- I doubt I would have been as into the web as I am today if my dad didn't at least try to show me the stuff.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by azanar on Thursday January 22, 2009 @07:23PM (#445670)
I understand the sentiment of not wanting to mold your children's interest by your own.

But, I think there is a difference between exposing your child to something you find interesting to see if it interests them too, and pushing your child to be interested in the things you find interesting. The vibe I got from grosales post is the former; expose him/her to Lisp, or some other computing topic, gauge their interest and go from there.

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by davidw on Friday January 23, 2009 @04:03AM (#446180)
Oh, sure, I'd agree with exposing them to as much stuff as possible, showing them what's out there, and obviously that includes what you know best.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by axod on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:45AM (#444812)
Congrats :) Kids are just awesome...
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by sarosh on Thursday January 22, 2009 @11:28AM (#444968)
I will deviate a bit and also wish Jessica a warm congratulations from the whole HN community. I'm sure we will have to do some kind of gift at some point....
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by fallentimes on Thursday January 22, 2009 @12:21PM (#445060)
We're on it.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by sanj on Thursday January 22, 2009 @06:56PM (#445635)
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by DanielBMarkham on Thursday January 22, 2009 @08:54AM (#444734)
Good news that you're working on the replacements! Version 2.0 is always better than 1.0 -- once you get the bugs worked out.

Best of luck. Kids are can be a lot of sweat and tears, but they're also the best thing you can experience in life. "Terrible blessings" might be a good aphorism.

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by mechanical_fish on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:50AM (#444821)
Beware the second-system effect. You know, the one where a parent says "It's too bad that I never got to go to medical school -- but my kid is going to be a doctor!"

Fortunately, startup-trained parents generally expect their kids to change their business plans several times.

(P.S. -- congratulations!)

Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by dilanj on Thursday January 22, 2009 @10:35AM (#444884)
On the contrary, studies have shown that V1.0s overwhelmingly tend to be the higher achievers.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by Shamiq on Friday January 23, 2009 @02:03AM (#446095)
Cohort effects!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by eisokant on Thursday January 22, 2009 @09:48AM (#444818)
Congratulations Paul! I wish you and your wife all the best during and after the pregnancy. - Eiso
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by habs on Thursday January 22, 2009 @11:21AM (#444951)
Ditto !!!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by adamc on Friday January 23, 2009 @08:24AM (#446326)
Congrats to both of them, and best wishes.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by niels_olson on Thursday January 22, 2009 @10:04AM (#444838)
Congratulations! Wish you the best.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by functionoid on Thursday January 22, 2009 @12:31PM (#445079)
Congratulations to both of you.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by michjeanty on Thursday January 22, 2009 @02:27PM (#445230)
congratulations to Jessica and PG.
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by adharmad on Thursday January 22, 2009 @03:41PM (#445338)
congrats and best wishes!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by kajecounterhack on Thursday January 22, 2009 @06:10PM (#445556)
Congrats!
Re:Congratulations PG on the coming child by misterbwong on Thursday January 22, 2009 @11:43AM (#444999)
Congrats!