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Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dclowd9901 on Monday June 30, 2025 @03:34AM (#44420491)
I recently visited the national history museum and finally got a sense of the _weirdness_ of prehistoric trees. No bark, a green trunk (utilizing photosynthesis), tall like a palm tree. I'd love to see something like that now.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by climb_stealth on Monday June 30, 2025 @04:05AM (#44420688)
That sounds awesome! The oddest trees I have come across had big thorns like roses all over the trunk. Kind of hard to see because the trunk is so big, but you'd very quickly notice leaning against it.

That was in a botanical garden in Australia. No idea what they were or how common they are. Blew my mind.

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by galangalalgol on Monday June 30, 2025 @08:02AM (#44422230)
Ceiba speciosa maybe? That is a weird tree for sure. I grew up where there were wild thorny honeylocust trees. The trunks are spotted with dense clusters of branching thorns, some of which are 8" long and stiff enough to puncture tractor tires. To paraphrase family guy, nature is scary.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dotancohen on Monday June 30, 2025 @08:24AM (#44422401)
Yeah, we've got these in Beersheba (south of Israel). The only tree my ten year old won't climb. They've also got really interesting cotton-like fruits, though I'm not brave enough to taste them.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dylan604 on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:56AM (#44424790)
Sounds like the nightmare tree I had to deal with as well. I never did find out what it was. Does the honeylocust produce a bunch of red berries? My dad used to get mad at me as a teen when I’d be lazy and not pick up the fallen limbs from this tree and puncture the tractor tires. It was to the sole reason I became very proficient at using the tire repair kit.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by Rendello on Monday June 30, 2025 @09:31AM (#44423075)
The oddest tree I know of is poplar, which is incredibly common around here and is basically considered junk wood. Turns out, those individual, fast-growing trees are in fact stems of a large underground root system.

One of these trees has 47,000 stems:

> Most agree [...] that Pando encompasses 42.89 hectares (106 acres), weighs an estimated 6,000 metric tons (6,600 short tons) or 13.2 million pounds, and features an estimated 47,000 stems, which die individually and are replaced by genetically identical stems that are sent up from the tree's vast root system, a process known as "suckering". The root system is estimated to be several thousand years old, with habitat modeling suggesting a maximum age of 14,000 years and 16,000 years by the latest (2024) estimate.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by Ifkaluva on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:19AM (#44424404)
Poplar is considered junk wood? This is news to me. I’ve seen plenty of poplar furniture.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by throwup238 on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:53AM (#44424763)
It’s too soft to be of much use except the odd piece of furniture (for which it is also terrible because it dents too easily). As a woodworker finishing it also sucks because the fibers tear too easily. Its grain pattern looks bland at best, it ages poorly, and its color is too inconsistent from tree to tree.

That said, it’s one of the most stable woods so it doesn’t warp much so it’s a popular base material for plywood and it’s easy on cutting tools. I usually only use it for the interior parts of drawers.

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by pfdietz on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:33PM (#44425176)
It also grows very fast, particularly (per acre) if closely spaced, which makes it of interest for biofuels.

https://farm-energy.extension.org/poplar-populus-spp-trees-f...

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by Rendello on Monday June 30, 2025 @03:55PM (#44427155)
It's considered to be a poor firewood around here, as well.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by tharkun__ on Monday June 30, 2025 @04:02PM (#44427240)
Which is all great for arrow shafts actually. Just may need to be thicker than usual.

The Mary Rose shafts seem to mostly have been poplar.

Not that this would be very relevant nowadays but still.

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by kergonath on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:07PM (#44424910)
It’s brittle, light and flimsy. It has its uses but is not great for furnitures or burning.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by jorts on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:55AM (#44424772)
It's often used as trim that's painted over, as many don't consider the wood pretty. I love seeing poplar with a wide variety of colors.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by lupusreal on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:57AM (#44424809)
My favorite odd tree is the ginkgo. The way the leaves are look ancient, like a tree from a fargone era. And it is exactly that.

Also the fruit was fun to throw at people when I was a kid... Very stinky.

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by jpfdez on Monday June 30, 2025 @10:07AM (#44423473)
Poplars have underground roots, but they are not "underground root stems" per se. Their main stem is the trunk we see growing above ground.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by Rendello on Monday June 30, 2025 @03:57PM (#44427186)
I'm mostly using the terminology from the Pando article. The article quotes a "Mitton and Grant" as writing:

> quaking aspen regularly reproduces via a process called suckering. An individual stem can send out lateral roots that, under the right conditions, send up other erect stems; from all above-ground appearances the new stems look just like individual trees. The process is repeated until a whole stand, of what appear to be individual trees, forms. This collection of multiple stems, called ramets, all form one, single, genetic individual, usually termed a clone.

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by DHRicoF on Monday June 30, 2025 @01:22PM (#44425777)
I don't know if you are talking about Drunken tree (palo borracho in spanish) but once playing soccer in a field with some of them I ended with around 15 funny parallels cuts. Good old times.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by williamdclt on Monday June 30, 2025 @05:44AM (#44421294)
> visited the national history museum

what nation?

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dclowd9901 on Monday June 30, 2025 @08:38PM (#44429447)
Sorry, I was referring to the Smithsonian National History Museum
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by kzrdude on Monday June 30, 2025 @06:55AM (#44421712)
Well, bamboo comes to mind as a really weird tree. It's not a tree, but it's the size of one..
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by pif on Monday June 30, 2025 @07:20AM (#44421887)
> prehistoric trees

I suppose you are actually talking of a time preceding prehistory by a fair lot!

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dylan604 on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:57AM (#44424802)
How can something precede history. Isn’t that just older history?
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by kergonath on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:10PM (#44424949)
Conventionally, History starts with written records. Everything that came before is prehistoric. It’s useful as a concept when discussion groups of humans in the last 10-odd millennia, but not really for things that are a couple of millions years old.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by pif on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @09:50AM (#44433919)
> Everything that came before is prehistoric.

Hi, Wikipedia doesn't agree with you:

> Prehistory [...] is the period of _human_ history between the first known use of stone tools by hominins c. 3.3 million years ago and the beginning of recorded history with the invention of writing systems.

Emphasis mine on "human".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory

Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by kergonath on Sunday July 06, 2025 @02:31PM (#44482954)
Yes, you are right. I was thinking in the context of human populations. And then there is the question of what is human and what is not, and the limit between archaeology and paleontology when considering homininae.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by marcellus23 on Monday June 30, 2025 @10:43AM (#44423979)
which museum? Do you mean the Natural History Museum in New York?
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dclowd9901 on Tuesday July 08, 2025 @04:26PM (#44503773)
The Smithsonian in DC
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by ceejayoz on Monday June 30, 2025 @11:19AM (#44424411)
Closest you can come today is probably a tree fern. I've got a Dicksonia antarctica in my living room under grow lights. It's a neat plant.
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dclowd9901 on Monday June 30, 2025 @08:37PM (#44429437)
Those look a lot like the ones I saw in the museum. Very cool plant!
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by kjkjadksj on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:40PM (#44425264)
Cycads are pretty old
Re:Amber insect fossils reveal "zombie" fungi likely lived a... by dpc050505 on Monday June 30, 2025 @03:04PM (#44426732)
Pot plants have no bark and a green trunk and can reach heights of like 12 ft.