Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by helixten on Sunday June 15, 2025 @09:25AM
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This is part of the standards process. Incubation happened here https://github.com/WICG/PEPC now on to Origin Trials before Standardization
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Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by d3nj4l on Sunday June 15, 2025 @09:41AM
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Well, they moved on despite both other major engine vendors having a negative position on this spec, so is the standards process really doing anything?
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by thaumasiotes on Sunday June 15, 2025 @09:43AM
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Yes, when people complain about what they're doing, they can say "this is just the way the standards process works".
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by JimDabell on Sunday June 15, 2025 @09:43AM
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I think that’s kinda misleading, isn’t it? You make it sound like it’s making good progress towards standardisation. They asked for feedback from other browser vendors, everybody said no, and they are shipping it anyway. Is “incubation happened, now on to origin trials before standardisation” really a suitable summary of that?
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by DrammBA on Sunday June 15, 2025 @10:09AM
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> “incubation happened (and we don't care what anyone said), now on to origin trials before standardisation (in chrome, and good luck if you use another browser)”
That's exactly how google would describe it with some missing context added.
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by madeofpalk on Sunday June 15, 2025 @10:48AM
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It cannot be a standard until two browsers ship the API.
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by fabrice_d on Sunday June 15, 2025 @11:37AM
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lol. As long as a browser with Chrome's market share ships it, it will be used.
Whether it's an official standard by some criteria doesn't matter.
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by JimDabell on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:56PM
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Technically, it’s not two browsers shipping it, it’s two independent implementations. Otherwise everything that Google ships as part of Blink would become a standard as soon as any one of the other Blink-based browsers (e.g. Edge) includes it.
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by superkuh on Sunday June 15, 2025 @09:31AM
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Standardization... also known as open washing by their employees in WHATWG.
Re:An origin trial for a new HTML <permission> element
by troupo on Monday June 16, 2025 @10:54AM
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It's not. There are now probably dozens (if not more) "standards" that are shipped in Chrome because "it's part of standards process".
Google creates an excuse of a standard proposal. Other browser vendors find major issues, or outright say "no", Google still ships the "standard".