^ You see how pompous and insufferable this sounds?
Let's put the same sentence:
"I'd love to explain to you, but if you haven't read $SOURCE_MATERIAL, you wouldn't understand it anyway".
Does it sound pompous and insufferable?
Of course we can agree to disagree. I'm not trying to win anything, but just express my perspective.
Have a nice day!
Politely pushes forward a freshly brewed mug of tea across the counter.
If getting wisdom from others is not your thing, I can respect that, but low-key insulting them for leaving you pointers for a more enlightened place is rude.
You can instead say "I don't understand why Al-Ghazali relates to this", and that would be completely OK.
Lastly, it's fine to quote someone but you need to explain how it's relevant to the conversation. The author could have summarised al-Ghazali's idea about free will or whatever and it would have been fine. But he didn't even bother, as if the ideas so basic and well known that it's not even worth doing.
I'm pretty comfortable with the way I've poked fun at the author's pompousness. If you need further explanation it's because you haven't read Chanakya yet.
I don't think that you're pompous because you cited somebody I don't know that existed. I'm not a god. People show me things I don't know, I take note of them.
Maybe I won't agree with the direction you show me, but at least I have a new direction to discover.
This is the difference.
Incidentally, HTTP has a status code for this. It’s 410 - Gone.
Which is devised for exactly this purpose.
This is all documented in Wikipedia accurately:
NPM had written rules and they violated their own rules for Kik. I asked them to remove all my packages. They gave me a script to run. The process took about a week, it was not sudden or unexpected.
When I realized it had the impact we saw after the unpublish, I gave away all my packages immediately, other devs took ownership of the packages and re-publish. Everything was back to normal within hours.
“Oh it’s all npm’s fault, I just ran a script” - this is what a child unable to take responsibility for his actions says. And you were most certainly a child, wanting to take your toys home with you when your feelings got hurt. You can blame npm all you like, but no one is buying that. You had the choice between accepting it like an adult, or hurting other people by taking your toys home, and you chose the latter. Npm didn’t choose. You did.
Judging by the fact that you’re still trolling on this thread left and right a decade later, unable to take responsibility for your actions, blaming everyone but yourself - you haven’t changed even little. You’re still a child, and you likely always will be.
One thing has changed for the better though, thanks to your tantrum. They didn’t have the legal policy or ToS in place from preventing you doing what you did. They’ve changed that now, it’s no longer possible for people to unpublish packages anymore like you did.
Yes, they have asked NPM to remove all of their packages. It's on them. NPM didn't do it, but gave a tool to do it themselves.
I deserted GitHub the day Copilot came online. I archived my repositories just because I didn't want broken links on comments and notes I have written god knows where.
I stopped uploading photos to Instagram the day they started doing AI training with my images. I didn't delete them because my partner likes them.
I can delete these repositories, photos, whatever I have online. I have no obligation to anyone. It's same for them. It's their code they developed by themselves. They can delete them, and just don't care what happens next.
Why this freedom bothers you that much?
P.S.: We don't do ad-hominem attacks here. Please refer to guidelines for more information. Thanks for your cooperation.
You’ve written so much, forgetting one basic thing about open source - he granted an irrevocable legal license to use every published version of his software. The MIT license isn’t just words, it contains enforceable legal rights. He broke other people’s software when he had no right to.
That’s the difference between unpublishing software and removing photos from Instagram. Understand that before jumping to his defence.
You talk like you know so much about HN. Why don’t you try deleting a comment of yours older than 2 hours. You’ve never tried it? Perhaps because you don’t know as much as you think you do. HN policy is that you don’t own the comments you’ve made, because a comment section is a tapestry created through collaboration. A petulant child wanting to destroy tapestries they’ve participated in will be told politely “no”.
You’re so keen to preach HN rules? Preach it to your fellow countryman that you’re stanning so hard. There’s only one flagged comment on this thread and it’s his.
Also, it unfortunately isn't the first time you've done this (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42565389), although it seems to be the first time you jumped into a full-blown flamewar. Please don't do it again. We have to ban users that abuse the site like this, and I don't want to ban you.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of HN more to heart, we'd be grateful.
When I was writing these replies, there were no flagged comments, and if there were, I can see them, if I want. That's an option you can change. I'm sure you know this better than me. You're here since 2014, and I'm here since 2017. Our comment histories are open. You can check whether I'm a sockpuppet or not.
The MIT license doesn't tell anything about availability of the source. In fact, MIT licensed software doesn't have to be Open Source at all. I can get the source, modify, compile and distribute the binaries without the source code attached, and no one can compel me about opening the source code. That's a requirement set forth by GPL family, and even these say that source should be available for a reasonable amount of time, not indefinitely, and certainly not online. IOW, I can sell GPL software, without putting its source code online. The only obligation is to provide the source to the people who have gotten the software (i.e.: How RedHat operates).
My only example was not my Instagram photos. I have also talked about my GitHub repositories (which I am not deleting because of my personal reasons), and again, I'm not here to defend them. To reiterate, I'm a completely different human being who happens to disagree with you.
HN's no delete policy was there since I joined, and I agreed to this when I started participating here. If they do something which is against my values, I'll leave this place, too (like I left Reddit back in the day). I'm not afraid to put my values first. In fact, this is why I have replied to you this much. I'm putting forward my perspective and values, which is not defending someone. I'm a lone person, walking my own way.
Your prejudice and anger is blocking your view. Currently three comments of you are also flagged.
It's enough that you're reflecting your beliefs and prejudices to other people in the form of low-key insults. Also your tea is going cold. It's not polite to not aceept a friendship drink offered in good faith.
This is my last reply on this comment thread, because this is a new day, and I have to handle other matters, too. Without any hard feelings, I wish you the best of luck, and have a nice day.
See you around.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Please don't, regardless of how annoying someone else is or you feel they are. We ban accounts that abuse the site like this, and as I told you that last time this came up, I don't want to ban you.
Edit: this has unfortunately been a problem for a long time:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39173389 (Jan 2024)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39173369 (Jan 2024)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34318179 (Jan 2023)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29957666 (Jan 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29957627 (Jan 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26127667 (Feb 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13804804 (March 2017)
Interesting monologs here. I wish you best in this, have a nice day!
> And third, they haven't read Al-Ghazali, don't quite understand how I make decisions.
Not everyone makes decision guided by the heart. Many people lean more on reason and logic.
Yes, when theres's no impulse strong enough to outweigh reasoning. You don't need Ghazali for this, Kant also explains it. Before suggesting that I rephrase things, I think you should explore the domain first.
BS -- What's your familiarity with what you're talking about?
> Do you not agree that some people would not have made the same decision as you did back then?
:facepalm:
“first, they didn't look at the dates of the emails. They don't understand the timeline.
second, they can't relate to standing your ground in a high pressure situation involving threats.
and third, they haven't read Al-Ghazali yet, don't quite understand how (free) people make decisions”
When was the last time you were threatened (“will bang in your doors” “take down your accounts”) by a company like Kik and you defended the principles and values you believed?
I’m quite familiar with both western and eastern traditions, don’t know any better source than Ghazali’s “the alchemy of happiness” about how people make decisions.
It’s kind of ironic to see people being triggered by just the mention of it though — just reflects what your heart tends to reject impulsively. I wish you curiosity.