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Re:Left-Pad (2024) by akoculu on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @10:43AM (#44248168)
I thought you prefer sharing your tantrums publicly haha
Re:Left-Pad (2024) by nindalf on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @11:48AM (#44248875)
People thought you deleted your 100+ repos in a fit of petulance without thinking through the consequences. The maturity you're showing in this thread a decade later indicates that they were probably right.
Re:Left-Pad (2024) by akoculu on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @12:05PM (#44249042)
It seems like you really got triggered by something about it and can't move on, hope you find out and resolve. Have a nice day
Re:Left-Pad (2024) by bayindirh on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @12:19PM (#44249170)
I don’t see a problem in someone deleting 1, 100 or 1000 repositories and moving on. Neither Open Source nor Free Software makes no promises of indefinite availability of the source code.

Incidentally, HTTP has a status code for this. It’s 410 - Gone.

Which is devised for exactly this purpose.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by olalonde on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @12:45PM (#44249401)
It used to be a "gentleman's agreement," but now npm enforces it - as a result of this guy's actions.
Re:Left-Pad (2024) by akoculu on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @02:17PM (#44250294)
Interesting choice of vocabulary combined with complete BS presented like facts.

This is all documented in Wikipedia accurately:

NPM had written rules and they violated their own rules for Kik. I asked them to remove all my packages. They gave me a script to run. The process took about a week, it was not sudden or unexpected.

When I realized it had the impact we saw after the unpublish, I gave away all my packages immediately, other devs took ownership of the packages and re-publish. Everything was back to normal within hours.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by nindalf on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:00PM (#44251178)
If anyone is triggered on this thread it’s you. You seem to be bending over backwards trying to justify the petulance you showed that day.

“Oh it’s all npm’s fault, I just ran a script” - this is what a child unable to take responsibility for his actions says. And you were most certainly a child, wanting to take your toys home with you when your feelings got hurt. You can blame npm all you like, but no one is buying that. You had the choice between accepting it like an adult, or hurting other people by taking your toys home, and you chose the latter. Npm didn’t choose. You did.

Judging by the fact that you’re still trolling on this thread left and right a decade later, unable to take responsibility for your actions, blaming everyone but yourself - you haven’t changed even little. You’re still a child, and you likely always will be.

One thing has changed for the better though, thanks to your tantrum. They didn’t have the legal policy or ToS in place from preventing you doing what you did. They’ve changed that now, it’s no longer possible for people to unpublish packages anymore like you did.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by bayindirh on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:02PM (#44251772)
I mean, they have seen that NPM did ate their hats to bow to a company and they decided to not have it, and they removed their packages. Why the anger?

Yes, they have asked NPM to remove all of their packages. It's on them. NPM didn't do it, but gave a tool to do it themselves.

I deserted GitHub the day Copilot came online. I archived my repositories just because I didn't want broken links on comments and notes I have written god knows where.

I stopped uploading photos to Instagram the day they started doing AI training with my images. I didn't delete them because my partner likes them.

I can delete these repositories, photos, whatever I have online. I have no obligation to anyone. It's same for them. It's their code they developed by themselves. They can delete them, and just don't care what happens next.

Why this freedom bothers you that much?

P.S.: We don't do ad-hominem attacks here. Please refer to guidelines for more information. Thanks for your cooperation.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by nindalf on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:31PM (#44252023)
He can speak for himself. You don’t need to defend him at every step. You’ve popped up 4 times defending your fellow countryman. Right now you look like a sock puppet account of his. Curious how you found your way to a flagged sub-thread that’s hidden by default.

You’ve written so much, forgetting one basic thing about open source - he granted an irrevocable legal license to use every published version of his software. The MIT license isn’t just words, it contains enforceable legal rights. He broke other people’s software when he had no right to.

That’s the difference between unpublishing software and removing photos from Instagram. Understand that before jumping to his defence.

You talk like you know so much about HN. Why don’t you try deleting a comment of yours older than 2 hours. You’ve never tried it? Perhaps because you don’t know as much as you think you do. HN policy is that you don’t own the comments you’ve made, because a comment section is a tapestry created through collaboration. A petulant child wanting to destroy tapestries they’ve participated in will be told politely “no”.

You’re so keen to preach HN rules? Preach it to your fellow countryman that you’re stanning so hard. There’s only one flagged comment on this thread and it’s his.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by akoculu on Thursday June 12, 2025 @12:50AM (#44254405)
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Re:Left-Pad (2024) by dang on Saturday June 14, 2025 @02:55PM (#44278061)
You broke the site guidelines repeatedly and badly in this thread. Please don't do that, regardless of how wrong or annoying someone is or you feel they are. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

Also, it unfortunately isn't the first time you've done this (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42565389), although it seems to be the first time you jumped into a full-blown flamewar. Please don't do it again. We have to ban users that abuse the site like this, and I don't want to ban you.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of HN more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by bayindirh on Thursday June 12, 2025 @04:33AM (#44255335)
Oh, I don't defend them. I'm just another person who's disagreeing with you. The only thing is their and my values align on some aspects, and we both disagree with you on the same issues more or less. I'm not here to defend anyone.

When I was writing these replies, there were no flagged comments, and if there were, I can see them, if I want. That's an option you can change. I'm sure you know this better than me. You're here since 2014, and I'm here since 2017. Our comment histories are open. You can check whether I'm a sockpuppet or not.

The MIT license doesn't tell anything about availability of the source. In fact, MIT licensed software doesn't have to be Open Source at all. I can get the source, modify, compile and distribute the binaries without the source code attached, and no one can compel me about opening the source code. That's a requirement set forth by GPL family, and even these say that source should be available for a reasonable amount of time, not indefinitely, and certainly not online. IOW, I can sell GPL software, without putting its source code online. The only obligation is to provide the source to the people who have gotten the software (i.e.: How RedHat operates).

My only example was not my Instagram photos. I have also talked about my GitHub repositories (which I am not deleting because of my personal reasons), and again, I'm not here to defend them. To reiterate, I'm a completely different human being who happens to disagree with you.

HN's no delete policy was there since I joined, and I agreed to this when I started participating here. If they do something which is against my values, I'll leave this place, too (like I left Reddit back in the day). I'm not afraid to put my values first. In fact, this is why I have replied to you this much. I'm putting forward my perspective and values, which is not defending someone. I'm a lone person, walking my own way.

Your prejudice and anger is blocking your view. Currently three comments of you are also flagged.

It's enough that you're reflecting your beliefs and prejudices to other people in the form of low-key insults. Also your tea is going cold. It's not polite to not aceept a friendship drink offered in good faith.

This is my last reply on this comment thread, because this is a new day, and I have to handle other matters, too. Without any hard feelings, I wish you the best of luck, and have a nice day.

See you around.

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by dang on Saturday June 14, 2025 @02:52PM (#44278032)
You broke the site guidelines repeatedly and badly in this thread. That's seriously not cool.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please don't, regardless of how annoying someone else is or you feel they are. We ban accounts that abuse the site like this, and as I told you that last time this came up, I don't want to ban you.

Edit: this has unfortunately been a problem for a long time:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39173389 (Jan 2024)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39173369 (Jan 2024)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34318179 (Jan 2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29957666 (Jan 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29957627 (Jan 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26127667 (Feb 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13804804 (March 2017)

Re:Left-Pad (2024) by akoculu on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:56PM (#44252260)
> You’re still a child, and you likely always will be.

Interesting monologs here. I wish you best in this, have a nice day!