they have failed in sfo, phoenix and other cities that rolled red carpet for them

And more specifically, I'm referencing Elon where the context is that its going to be a software push into Teslas that people already own

There's a big gap between seeing something work in the lab and being ready for real world use. I know we do this in software, but that's a very abnormal thing (and honestly, maybe not the best)

When someone talks about "having" self-driving cars next year, they're not talking about what are essentially pilot programs.

Not to mention that HN gets really tetchy about achieving specifically SAE Level 6 when in practice some pretty basic driver assist tools are probably closer to what people meant. It reminds me of a gentlemen I ran into who was convinced that the OpenAI DoTA bot with a >99% win rate couldn't really be said to be playing the game. If someone can take their hands off the wheel for 10 minutes we're there in a common language sense; the human in the car isn't actively in control.

It's pretty damning that it failed there.

And it took what like 2 decades to get there. So no, we don't have self-driving even close. Those examples look more like hard-coded solution for custom test cases.