If there was inappropriate behavior which wouldn't stop once called out, they would be excluded.
And excluding Jews because they are Jewish is antisemitism plain and simple. Excluding those that deny that Israel actions have become genocidal different, but you won't know who they are unless you talk to them and most importantly they are not necessarily Jewish !
I'm visibly jewish and have been attending pride events and lgbt activist events for ages. I've never even heard of what you describe.
https://19thnews.org/2025/05/dyke-march-2025-new-york-city-z...
political support for the creation and development of a Jewish homeland in Israel https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/Zionism
Historically the majority of jewish people fall into this definition.
So off the bat you creating your own incorrect definition proves it IS hard to understand what a ban on 'Zionists' mean. You've called me a liar for no reason previously so I won't bother responding to you beyond pointing out how flawed your starting premise is.
If the organizers of the event have chosen a different definition than the one that most Jewish (and non-Jewish) attendees would reasonably expect it's a recipe for confusion and exclusion. Dismissing those who use the correct definition as irrelevant is wild. You deny their legitimacy so a political agenda can take center stage. Redefining words, excluding people, it's all super gross and 1984 AF.
You’re still wrong, and your attempt to reframe this only reinforces the article’s point. Redefining terms like Zionism confuses and erases people who actually use them in their accepted sense. Using redefined words to ban/prohibit people is gross. Especially when under it's 'plain reading' the ban is effectively a ban on the majority of Jewish people. Defending it is gross. The burden is on event organizers to communicate effectively, and that burden includes using words common/standard definitions not Orwellian redefinitions done purely to politicize a word.
However, the surrounding Muslim theocratic states have basically zero jews left. The majority of Israelis' are Mizrahi jewish refugees that were pushed out of the surrounding theocratic Muslim states.
Mixed groups on the other hand turn into a soap opera.
What is needed is a strong common interest that binds the group beyond these tendencies to stave off the soap opera entropy. The soap opera entropy will always increase with time though until the group dissolves.
It is still more stable though than the misogynist entropy.
Just not true. Men only groups are rarely misogynist, more often they are homophobic in the sense that everyone is trying to imply that everyone else is secretly gay.
There is also various forms of dick measuring contests - who can grill better, who caught bigger fish and so on. Also for hobbies. And a lot of stories. You have no idea the acts of bravery worthy of medal of honor you will hear.
Bitching about women is minor.
On the other hand being able to overhear what my roommate and her girlfriends (early 20s) talk about - on some evenings they don't pass the Bechdel test in real life. On other evenings it usually evenly split between men, fashion, professional.
> Men only groups are rarely misogynist, more often they are homophobic in the sense that everyone is trying to imply that everyone else is secretly gay.
The rise of red pill sentiments, podcasters, and groups strive on a very misogynistic notion. The second point in that sentence is also the default in those groups.
This is exactly what I do not want to be part of.
And if that man is charismatic or handsome its completely different dynamics and resulting behavior again.
Never thought about it myself but one female friend mentioned this once (how toxic their work environment becomes when there is no man), so started noticing it around.
As a married man I can understand these clubs fully. A man is never so relaxed, open and honest as when with other men, only men. I would expect the same among women, while accepting they always play their little games also just among themselves (which are very tiring for most men in long run and thus those clubs' popularity)
We aren't talking about spouses.
I've yet to see the clam closing up than I did on the day. Sadly it happened way too late for some things.
So yeah, don't be vulnerable around women. That's the warning my wife gave me.
All in all, I am most open to her from whole mankind, but thats also due to the fact she is not same as typical women are in these aspects. It took me some time (and painful breakups with other women) to realize who I am, what and whom I want next to me and then find her.
Still, some topics are simply not built for women, and thats fine, some are not built for men.
Is it really so hard to understand this?
Generally I much prefer mixed gender socialising!
That's not been the the case in my experience, as a man.
Can't bond without insulting women. There's a very important difference.