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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by Hoasi on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:02PM (#44119482)
Exactly, but what users want is not part of this equation.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by splatter9859 on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @04:06PM (#44120188)
Never usually is with Musk and his platforms. Both X and Tesla's software stack clearly show this readily. He has other purposes in mind.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by serial_dev on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @04:30PM (#44120377)
I’m sorry, I don’t think this is on Musk or xAI. IMO it is on Telegram. Only Telegram has the obligation to know what their users want and look out for their own users. It’s not unreasonable for Grok to want to have more users.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by dotcoma on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @04:36PM (#44120424)
Maybe not. But how much are they going to make by spending these 300 million USD ?
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by colordrops on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @04:59PM (#44120597)
Are you claiming it's a stupid business decision, or something else? Because they must be thinking that there is a profit to be made somewhere, either through training data or brand exposure to Telegram's 1 billion users.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by littlestymaar on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @05:24PM (#44120807)
Or Musk just want to say “hey, we growed in users by x%” this year so that he can keep pretending being in the race, for some street cred', like the way he pays some progamer in Asia to boost his PoE2 account.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by MonkeyClub on Thursday May 29, 2025 @04:37AM (#44124136)
That's quite a viable possibility, I don't get why you're getting downed.

Grok is indeed trailing the race and could use extra numbers. It doesn't matter to their bottom line (or their ad campaigns) if these numbers come from a flat rate agreement with Telegram.

If anything, Telegram should have bargained for more.

Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by bratwurst3000 on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:20AM (#44199723)
yes telegram user need a conspiracy theory friendly chatbot and grok needs users… win win win
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by therealpygon on Thursday May 29, 2025 @08:03AM (#44125161)
Who knows how much they’ll make off the data they obtain from users and chat history data, but in this day and age, no one gets paid to integrate AI, they pay for it which means there is clearly some other goal. And I can tell you there is a reason he didn’t make this offer to Signal instead, where they wouldn’t have access to any chat history, and that it would mean xAI (at this point which looks more like a data harvesting company) becoming a “partner” would normally allow data to be handed over. In this case, however, that isn’t necessary since lTelegram’s privacy policy is basically, “we can use your data for whatever we want”, including selling it for 300 million and claiming it is the payment to integrate AI.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by prettyblocks on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @05:05PM (#44120648)
As a Telegram user, I don't mind having an interface to Grok that is outside of X.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by wongarsu on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @06:27PM (#44121209)
Isn't that grok.com? There is also a grok iOS and Android app (though the Android app is apparently a bit of a 2nd class citizen)

Admittedly, some of the uses in the article do sound useful. Time will tell

Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by csomar on Thursday May 29, 2025 @05:08AM (#44124281)
That must be new because a few months ago I wanted to give it a try and the only option was to have a Twitter account.
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by piyuv on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @07:53PM (#44121664)
Do you mind being sold to X for $300m?
Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by Gud on Thursday May 29, 2025 @05:36AM (#44124417)
I agree with you.

But this is why we must champion open protocols and open source software.

I absolutely believe both LLMs and social media platforms should be federated and controlled by the user.

Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by prettyblocks on Thursday May 29, 2025 @09:57AM (#44126198)
Yeah, I'm not contesting that at all. I think Telegram sold its soul a long time ago, so I kind of just treat it as a self-contained socially oriented splinter-net with its own integrated app environment... and it's actually really cool and feature rich. I also find Grok to be an LLM that performs pretty well, so I don't mind the integration, much the same way I didn't mind the AI integrations into WhatsApp, but I understand that many people just want a messenger that's a messenger so I can understand the pushback.