or 8+ years

He will already have serves his second (and therefore last) term, or what do you mean?

You do realize that the last time he was voted out an angry crowd literally stormed the capitol to overturn the election? What more can they do with better preparation?

Probably this:

https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/

Huh, that page actually seems to admit that the third term is not valid:

> Rewrite the rules with the Trump 2028 high crown hat.

Or perhaps I misunderstand what they mean with "rewrite the rules".

They know it's not valid. That's why they want to rewrite the rules.

Sure, but it’s still couched in legal theory that seeks to legitimize it. That phrasing suggests the rules need to be changed to legitimize it, which tracks with my understanding but not the rhetoric.

He has spoken repeatedly about running for a third term.

I find it unlikely but…

Much of my extended family would absolutely join a civil war on side Trump to get him into a permanent position of power if given the opportunity. Some of them are in the military. So it’s not unreasonable by world history standards that he could get a subset of the military on his side in a coup scenario.

I think people in large urban centers or outside of the US don’t realize how much certain parts of the country truly worship him above anything else. I know many people like this, I have to see them at family events, so you can’t tell me it’s an exaggeration. I’m not sure there are enough to do anything substantial, but the seeds are there.

Yeah the amount of people I heard praising God when he was elected was disturbing. People literally believe he is a messiah. It's terrifying.

I hope they realize how profoundly un-American it would be to fight a civil war to install a king/dictator in power.

They don’t/won’t.

I took it to mean whoever succeeds him could be just as bad.

Trump has repeatedly asserted he wants to run for a "third term" and his base worship him.

His electorate's beliefs are whatever he tells them they are. The same is true for the Republican Party. Trump is effectively free to ignore the constitution without consequence.

You are assuming Trump will step down?

You are quite naive, aren't you?

Martial law will be declared, for whatever reason they can come up with. Maybe the "invasion" excuse again, maybe Greenland, maybe Canada, maybe Mexico. But one thing is sure: Trump will be the last president of this democracy iteration.

Their goal is for forever+ years.

Shit needs to get ugly fast enough to make the masses take notice or they may just get their way.

As it’s going, probably 8 years.

I'm glad we're testing the guardrails by making our country unappealing the best talent in the world and wasting government resources on a revenge tour.

This is quite literally the appeal to tradition or inertia fallacy. Just because they've been around for a while does not mean they are not facing an existential threat. Every structure humans create will one day collapse. This certainly looks difficult for Harvard and could be their end because there is no divine protection, only the decision that will be made by an extremely conservative Supreme Court and the willingness of authoritarian minded government employees in the trump admin to listen to the courts.

Things that have been around for a long time are the ones most likely to continue to exist, it's not a fallacy.

They are not, that is expectation of future performance based upon past. Reality is too complex and dynamic for that.

Reality is complex and dynamic, and through all of that Harvard's endurance pre-dates the US, therefore I would expect it to endure a 4 year term of Government. Not to say with a 100% certainty, but I would expect it to with a greater degree of confidence than many other things, based on its history.

However I wouldn't extend that line of thinking to stock markets, superannuation etc.

I worked for a foundry that had been at the same location for 120 years. GE ran it into the ground and closed it 2 years after acquiring it.

Lehman Brothers

Appeal to tradition is reasonable in this context because of the Lindy effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect.

The longer something has been around, the more likely it's going to be around in the future.

Tsinghua survived the Cultural Revolution. DU survived the Emergency. Cal survived Nixon. Harvard will survive this

That said, I personally believe Harvard's public reputation is significantly overstated - Stanford has become the new Harvard for at least 2 decades now.

Trump is not the problem, he's a symptom. Don't forget he got reelected, together with a republican congress who does everything he tells them to do.

This. If Trump is suddenly gone for whatever reason, the succeeding President is going to continue with the MAGA/Project 2025 agenda. Trump may be dumb and stupid, but imagine a US President who is young, energetic and speaks coherently that continues with the same agenda. (Hint: look at DeSantis and what happened in Florida.)

Lack a kings in the history is major problem. Four years are far from enough to fix it.

I would hope that people with a better reading of history understand how necessary it is to fight lunatics in power.