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Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by 90d on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:08AM (#43953231)
"a single staff engineer with experience and a trusty LLM is similarly productive as a team of 2-4 junior engineers"

I think we are SEVERELY underestimating the amount of slop that is going to come from this.

Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by giantg2 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:11AM (#43953245)
Depends on how sloppy 2-4 junior devs are and thr overhead of managing and developing them. I think the comparison could be similar
Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by 90d on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:17AM (#43953271)
A lot more bad logic will get by the smell test when you have 1 staff member vibe-coding. And just wait until he is held to that level of zero-test, lowest hanging fruit productivity as being "normal".
Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by giantg2 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:36AM (#43953369)
That is a good point that wasn't in the original description. I do think test engineers will become more important to ensure the generated code actually fits the requirements. We might even see the role evolving towards more of a business analyst role using LLMs to generate the tests and then adjusting/validating them based on the requirements.
Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by exe34 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:24AM (#43953318)
The thing about a junior dev is that often times you can convince them to start/stop doing things a certain way.
Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by hnthrow90348765 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:19AM (#43953286)
There's already skill issues in the field even with senior people and without AI. It's why we test people to witch hunt for those imposters. Lots of talk about how one bad hire can ruin the whole team or something. Even competent developers stretching across multiple skillsets (front end, back end, ops) that they aren't experts in. And plenty of bad code and technical debt from bad off/on-shore contractors due to skill issues and communication barriers.

I'm not saying you're wrong though, but just that it won't be much different.

Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by skwee357 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:19AM (#43953288)
It fascinates me how little respect software engineers get. The entire internet paints a picture of software engineers as useless code producing monkeys.

I haven’t seen anything similar in any other engineering industry.

Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by tomrod on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:26AM (#43953324)
I've seen people estimate two days of work for a manual headline content update on a mature code base they know.

No new tests, no new design, no new implementation. Literally just a single word swapped.

Turns out the engineerinng team had uncertainty with the new testing framework that was mandated, and rather than document it they blew up their velocity.

This approach bites back. When work isn't understood, people on the outside disrespect the workers.

Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by n_ary on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:46AM (#43953430)
Isn’t it a bit suspect that that particular image benefits a special new tool about which the OP is heavily speculating?

I am very surprised that no one in HN can see the correlation of the narrative and speculations vs the absurd age thrown around only to be repeated by actual people whose image is being tarnished because the mass narrative wants them to feel powerless(first stage of wage suppression).

Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by idiotsecant on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:22AM (#43953305)
Because in other industries the engineers know something about the real world thing that they're engineering, they aren't just manipulating abstractions.
Re:Ask HN: What will tech employment look like in 10 years? by _dark_matter_ on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:24AM (#43953319)
Computers aren't real