This is important, and most partisans will get caught up in a discussion about whose corruption was worse. The bigger issue in my mind is that no one wants to police their own side, which leads to absurd flip-flopping hypocrisy every time the other party gains power. "Less bad" corruption is still a very bad thing, whoever you believe to be the more corrupt. But our current political system doesn't seem to have a way to wrestle with this.

IDK, I think actual democratic voters tend to be far more on the "hammer the button even more enthusiastically" side of the "ah, but if you press that button, the Bidens will also be investigated!" meme-cartoon.

Like, yes, please, investigate all of them.

Republicans sort-of tried with Hunter, but kept balking at public hearings because they knew a bunch of the stuff they were claiming when they went on Fox was made-up, so it better served their propaganda purposes to avoid pursuing it. If there was actually anything to it, I hope and assume they would have gone ahead.

Which brings up the credibility problem with these claims from Republicans: "There's fraud in government! We found tons of it!" cool, that's a crime, where are the indictments? Oh, there aren't any, because you're full of shit. "Massive election fraud!" cool, that's a serious crime, you're in power now, a bunch of your AGs launched high-profile investigations, where are the indictments? You snagged a half-dozen cases, all mundane shit like someone with two houses voting in both states in two different elections because they forgot about it or didn't realize it was illegal? Where is the massive, organized fraud? Oh, you were just lying. Again. (They've been fucking that particular chicken for nearly two damn decades and somehow still have nothing to show for it, the democracy-undermining pricks). Months and months and all those hours of interviews for the Benghazi "investigations", and what? Nothing again. It's tedious. Shit or get off the pot, go after crime but stop lying about it.

What were their roles in the Biden Administration?

Recipients of nepotistic pardons, which is what people find suspicious.

It's now clear that the presidential pardon is just an endorsement for crime, whoever's using it.

He was pardoned because Biden knows that Trump is going to just make up some excuse to go after his family.

In the case of Hunter Biden he wouldn’t need to make up excuses.

He was convicted of several crimes…

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco-weiss/pr/robert-hunter-...

So if Don Junior starts selling finger paintings to Russian oligarchs and Saudi royals you’d be okay with it since he’s not officially part of the administration?

To compare Hunter Biden, a private citizen, making a few paintings, to the actual president of the country grifting with crypto to the tune of billions, is rather something. Especially after watching the 2 billion dollar bailout that Jared Kushner got from the Saudis during the first term.

Jared Kushner is just as much a “private citizen” as Hunter Biden is.

Hunter Biden blatantly and corruptly sold his father’s influence. There’s even evidence that Joe got his “10% for the big guy” on these dealings. It’s a massive disgusting scandal.

For the record I can’t stand when either side pulls this crap. The whole narrative that my side’s politicians are less corrupt than yours needs to end. They’re dividing us into tribes and playing us for fools while the political class robs us blind.

Hunter Biden, as far as I know, didn't hold an official title within his father's administration. Jared Kushner, on the other hand, did hold an official title within Donald Trump's first administration.

Hunter Biden, as far as the country has been made aware, never requested an TS-SCI clearance, as Jared Kushner did. Jared Kushner was given one via overrule from the 45th administration when the FBI and CIA said there's no way in hell he should be given access to any state secrets due to his background.

For the record, fuck Hunter Biden for anything he might have done. But don't equate selling access to demanding the highest levels of access to our nation's most closely held secrets.

Why can’t we just agree that both are really, really bad? The amount of mental gymnastics that each side does to justify such blatant corruption is astounding.

Except Hunter Biden’s crimes were relatively minor ones that were massively amplified and distorted by a political smear campaign. For example: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgnl7qdvjno.amp

> The whole narrative that my side’s politicians are less corrupt than yours needs to end.

> Jared Kushner is just as much a “private citizen” as Hunter Biden is.

Feel free to start the ball rolling

All corruption and law breaking should be investigated and prosecuted as appropriate. I don’t care what side they are on. Our entire political class is full of corruption. For the record I’m also not a fan of the Trump meme coins, Jared Kushner’s actions, or various Republican politicians at all levels that are blatantly corrupt.