Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's a moral collapse

Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by serial_dev on Friday April 18, 2025 @06:55AM (#43726812)

I’d add fertility rate as another powerful metric: when people feel safe, supported, and optimistic, they have kids. So if housing, income stability, healthcare, and trust in the future are in place, you’ll usually see that reflected in birth rates.

All this only makes sense in the context of large groups; at the individual level, many factors determine whether someone has children.

What the puppet masters will tell you though that a country’s fertility rate are declining, because women want careers, the men are incels, and fertility drops due to climate change and microplastics.

Most people I know around my age, either limit the number of children or delay having them because they don’t feel safe bringing a child into this world.

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by jstanley on Friday April 18, 2025 @06:57AM (#43726827)

> when people feel safe, supported, and optimistic, they have kids.

I actually thought that wasn't the case. Across the entire world, people in more precarious circumstances have more kids. I don't know why.

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by graemep on Friday April 18, 2025 @07:34AM (#43727082)

Across the world, yes, but in the context of reasonably well of people, no. There are other differences too.

The consequences of having more kids is very different for a subsistence farmer vs an affluent urban person.

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by YouWhy on Friday April 18, 2025 @07:06AM (#43726884)

> people in more precarious circumstances have more kids. I don't know why.

Did you consider that the judgement of precariousness of the people's situation is in your value system, and does not necessarily transfer to their value system? Especially this could be due to you having access to more information than them

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by lazide on Friday April 18, 2025 @07:12AM (#43726925)

isn’t your comment doing literally the same thing?

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by YouWhy on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:10AM (#43727746)

Actually I do not see the similarity. However it appears that you see disrespect where only respect was intended - could you propose how should I have conveyed the message in a way that would appear more respectful in your eyes?

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by lazide on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:11AM (#43727761)

Huh?

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by morellt on Friday April 18, 2025 @07:23AM (#43726997)

less educated -> less money -> less to lose + welfare benefits don't look too bad

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by watwut on Friday April 18, 2025 @02:55PM (#43730889)

Women who are educated about birth control and able to make those decisions have less kids. That is why - when women specifically have options they choose to have less kids and pursue own happiness.

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by HDThoreaun on Friday April 18, 2025 @10:37AM (#43728499)

Nordic countries have the lowest birth rates outside east asia and they rank among the top on surveys of happiness, optimism and the like. I think you need to revisit your thesis. Some cultures just dont prioritize having kids.

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Re:Waiting 100 years for a home isn't a housing crisis, it's... by const_cast on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:15PM (#43733376)

My understanding of human geography and population pyramids is that it's the opposite - when a nation is developing but not developed, birth rates are the highest. Developed nations have lower birth rate.

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