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Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by hliyan on Thursday April 03, 2025 @04:56AM (#43566823)
Sri Lankan here. They just slapped 44% on us (higher than on China). The country is just trying to recover from the economic crisis and the sovereign debt default of 2022, so we have very high import duties on certain items (e.g. vehicles) to discourage dollar outflow. Looks like the US just saw that as hostile and decided to strike back.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by Danmctree on Thursday April 03, 2025 @06:47AM (#43567702)
The numbers appear to be based on the trade deficit alone, not on any differences in import duties etc.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by throwaway2037 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:08AM (#43567877)
That is correct. It was empircally proven here: https://www.ft.com/content/c4f9c7f6-0753-4458-840e-bcde1b74a...

To quote Alex Scaggs of FT:

    Take the US’s goods trade deficit with any particular country, and divide it by the total amount of goods imported from that country. Cut that percentage in half, and there’s the US’s “reciprocal” tariff rate.
All countries tested against this theory are correct within 1-2 percent.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by jimmySixDOF on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:20AM (#43567995)
Now somebody factor in Services and rerun the numbers.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by credit_guy on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:16AM (#43567953)
This is interesting. I don't know the details of Trump's tariff policy, but if this is correct, it would follow that the policy should have some mechanism to reduce the tariffs as the trade imbalance is reduced.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by brookst on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:29AM (#43568078)
Not sure why? It’s an irrational policy not based on any kind of sense. I don’t think I’d expect it to be logically consistent. Besides, what do you do with a country where US is a net exporter? Provide subsidies for imports?

It’s all drunk monkeys driving a train… there is no economic theory to expect consistency from.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by rayiner on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:09AM (#43568481)
It’s not “irrational.” It’s crude, but it’s based on a logic that, on average, trade deficits should generally reduce to zero. And I strongly suspect this is about our large, diversified trade partners (EU, China) and is simply being imposed across the board for appearances.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by brookst on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:54AM (#43568905)
There is no “logic” that any two country pairs should have an equal trade balance.

“Belief” or “dogma” or even “idea” would work, but there’s no logic in that claim.

There’s not even a policy goal. If the intent is to convert the US from a net importer to neutral or even a net exporter, it means our cost of production needs to be about average. Which means our populace’s quality of life needs to be about average; wealthy countries are more expensive to produce in. Mix in the supposed interest in economic and social liberty, and you’ve got a country trying to destroy its own wealth in the name of controlling what its freedom-loving citizens buy

There is no logic here. It’s drunk monkeys all the way down.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by amluto on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:02AM (#43569842)
Imagine the classical triangular trade. Three countries can have entirely balanced trade, yet each country has a 100% trade deficit with another country. Everyone benefits, and no one runs a trade deficit. Throw a huge tariff in and a country’s trade, imports and exports, will collapse.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by oa335 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:08AM (#43569950)
> a logic that, on average, trade deficits should generally reduce to zero.

1. Why do you believe this is true?

2. Why do you believe that 0 trade deficits are a good thing?

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by libertine on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:42AM (#43568187)
Unless they think that because it came out of an Excel formula, there's a logic behind it - and honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if these folks have that insight.

> Besides, what do you do with a country where US is a net exporter? Provide subsidies for imports?

In this instance, I believe the thought pattern is: "we're being smart here".

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by jkestner on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:21AM (#43568582)
They’re even adding Greek letters, very intelligent. https://x.com/Brendan_Duke/status/1907741651172311353
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by libertine on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:54AM (#43569699)
I'll be damned, I had no idea and I still got it right.

Once people accept that this administration is very much like the Russian regime, where everyone is the type of person playing to an aesthetic, you see this stuff coming miles away.

This is what these sorts of people would do.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by floydnoel on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:26AM (#43568632)
you can just read the methodology where they published it here: https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by matt-p on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:18AM (#43567971)
You're right I think it's MAX(10%,(imports-exports)/imports) as a general tariff plus targeted reciprocal (in some cases, not all)
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by blacklion on Thursday April 03, 2025 @06:58AM (#43567803)
It does nothing with "hostile". For China, yes, but for most other countries tariff is simply ($USA-import - $USA-export)/$USA-import. That simply, numbers are check for many many countries. I'm sure, USA imports a lot of tea from Sri Lanka and some fruits and wood/furniture.

(Freshly made Sri Lankian tea is the best, IMHO! I mean, proper tea, not all these grasses, berries and synthetic aromas which are named "tea" in modern western world).

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by JKCalhoun on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:27AM (#43568063)
I would have assumed it was Sri Lankan textiles that were a major cause of the tariffs.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by mycatisblack on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:51AM (#43568281)
Any recommendations for tea brands/products?
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by blacklion on Thursday April 03, 2025 @07:57AM (#43568354)
Unfortunately, no, as I've changed country of living year ago and still can not find way to good tea in new place. Also, I'm not sure, that recommendations from Europe is actual for you even if I have one.

But really best "black" tea of my life (and I spent most of my life in country with strong tea culture, where loose tea and teapots are still very popular, and not, it is not UK!) was bough at random tea factory in the middle of nowhere in Sri Lanka, packed in simple 1kg vacuum bags. No brand, no name, only date of picking (two days ago) and packing (today at the day of bought) :-)

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by griffzhowl on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:33AM (#43571217)
Ahmad Ceylon Tea is a good strong black tea. They mainly trade in Middle Eastern markets I think so check Arab/Indian grocery shops
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by hliyan on Thursday April 03, 2025 @12:37PM (#43572192)
As a local, the brand called Dilmah is just a regular supermarket brand for us, but I hear it's quite popular in places like Australia and New Zealand.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by tw1984 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:05AM (#43568442)
> Freshly made Sri Lankian tea is the best, IMHO! I mean, proper tea, not all these grasses, berries and synthetic aromas which are named "tea" in modern western world

It shouldn't be called tea if it is not from a very selective small area of Hangzhou. You've never tasted real tea in your entire life, what a pity.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by semi-extrinsic on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:28AM (#43568649)
What you are describing is fairly easy to get, at least in Europe, e.g. from https://www.whittard.com/tea/tea-type/green-tea/dragon-well-...

They also have some of GPs favorite: https://www.whittard.com/all/ceylon-orange-pekoe-loose-tea-p...

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by tw1984 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:20AM (#43571024)
come on, $26 per 50g. it is like someone trying to sell you the full ownership of OpenAI for $1 billion USD in H1 2025.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by semi-extrinsic on Thursday April 03, 2025 @02:58PM (#43573860)
Yeah, they are the poshest tea shop in London, of course they're expensive. If you know of a more affordable place with shipping and high quality, I'm all ears.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by blacklion on Friday April 04, 2025 @07:33AM (#43580749)
It is THE problem for me: tea become "posh" in Europe. You have tea dust from Lipton in bags on one end of the spectrum, posh tea which costs about 100x to its origin (26€/$ per 50g! 520€ for a kilo! It is insane, it is lifestyle price, not food/grocery price!) on the other end of the spectrum and nothing in-between.

Ok, Germany or Netherlands never were known for tea tradition, but UK was THE Tea country. UK created Assam, Darjeeling, Ceylon teas in the first place! How did this happen?

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by anonzzzies on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:39AM (#43568756)
I prefer tea from Hangzhou as well vs Sri Lankan tea. I get it currently shipped via HK as it is very hard to find good tea otherwise.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by blacklion on Friday April 04, 2025 @07:28AM (#43580703)
Do we speak about "black" ("red" in Chinese classification) tea?

To be honest, I've tried many red teas from China and all of them... Very Chinese.

It is not bad at all (some of them are very interesting!, but it is other style compared to Ceylon, Darjeeling and Assam teas (which are not the same too, but close to each other than to Chinese red tea).

Different styles of green ad white teas I like too, but as specialty, not on as day-to-day many-time-a-day go-to drink.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by re-thc on Thursday April 03, 2025 @05:06AM (#43566926)
> They just slapped 44% on us (higher than on China).

Not true, China's is on top of its existing tariffs.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by lom on Thursday April 03, 2025 @05:12AM (#43566959)
So 53% on China in total, because the previous rate was 20%
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by wkat4242 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:05AM (#43569890)
The strange thing I find is that Trump is not going after the companies who were the ones that decided to move production to China in the first place.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by bandrami on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:22AM (#43569232)
(waves from across Lake Beira)

It's mind-boggling because the US has been trying very very hard to pull Sri Lanka away from China for a decade now

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by testplzignore on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:19AM (#43570101)
I would be surprised if the current US administration even knows where Sri Lanka is, let alone our pre-Trump foreign policy with them.