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Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by m463 on Friday March 28, 2025 @05:56PM (#43510234)
Naive writer. "personalized ads" doesn't mean he will see ads he likes. It means advertisers will pay to show ads to him because of his age, income or behavior, and they can be ads he doesn't like.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by recursive on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:19PM (#43510427)
What's the difference? Ads are valuable to advertisers for a number of factors, including the estimated likelihood that the targeted user will pay money for $PRODUCT.

An increase in relevance isn't exactly the same thing as an increase in favor, but it's hard to believe they're not correlated.

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by izacus on Friday March 28, 2025 @07:10PM (#43510890)
Let me show you in practical terms - I've searched for some neat cases for a Pixel 9 Pro (for a family member). I'm now receiving targeted ads for phone cases on Instagram on my Galaxy S25.

- Ads I'd like: More cute cases for either P9Pro or a Galaxy S25 I'm watching the ads on.

- Ads the company is pushing: iPhone-only cases which I can't use anywhere.

Quite staggering the incompetence of targeting those :)

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by recursive on Friday March 28, 2025 @07:27PM (#43510992)
Sounds like the targeting is just not specific enough yet.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by izacus on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:40PM (#43511601)
I'd hope "show cases for android phones on an android phone" to be something rockstar engineers at ad companies figure out rather easily.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by hakfoo on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:57AM (#43521467)
Or the ad content isn't being made specific enough. I know that at least for the cheap Aliexpress tier stuff, they'll make the same basic design for 12 different phones, so theoretically the same product listing might include iPhone and various Android variants, but the description might fail to reveal that.

I'm sort of surprised that the industry isn't 70% print-on-demand these days-- just say "we have a nice sturdy case design for the top 500 phone models, and upload your own art".

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by rightbyte on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:43PM (#43510671)
"Ads I like" would be like informative commercials about workshop tools, like how they were in the 70s.

Not emotion focused ads, which is what The Man wants me to see to make me buy his stuff.

I don't watch ads but if I did I would prefer a "what, how, price" setup.

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by hammock on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:44PM (#43510684)
There is little difference if we are talking cost per click. But many ads are still sold on cost per view
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by pyrale on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:34PM (#43510583)
Advertising is not limited to companies trying to sell an innocuous product.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by chneu on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:44PM (#43511627)
Ads you like vs things you'll actually buy are two very different things.

Samsung can't make money off me buying vintage tools or computer parts. I'd love to see those ads.

But Samsung can hit me with new washing machine ads, or ads for big businesses pushed thru their galaxy store.

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by kulahan on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:06PM (#43510332)
The goal of any advertising service is to match people with relevant ads, and collecting data is a major part of how you do that. That’s what the author is referring to.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by mjevans on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:34PM (#43510588)
Or they could base it on the content that's next to the ad.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by Terretta on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:45PM (#43510690)
NYT among others found ads placed with content outperformed ads attempting to target users. Also avoided awkwardly advertising things that shouldn't be advertised alongside certain content.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by throwaway48476 on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:19PM (#43511441)
This makes journalism on controversial subjects unprofitable. Who would want to do a content based ad on Israel/Gaza?
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by windhaven on Friday March 28, 2025 @10:51PM (#43512284)
Probably aid groups like the Red Cross? I’ve seen plenty of ads from organizations whose premise is “this terrible thing is happening, donate to help end it!”
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by throwaway48476 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:03AM (#43514201)
Fair enough.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by kulahan on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:18AM (#43512685)
They do both of these things simultaneously.
Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by m463 on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:04AM (#43512629)
I'm talking about his conclusions from the "To be honest" paragraph.

People are not matched with "relevant ads" due to their interests, it is due to the advertisers interest in your demographics.

(also, the writer might be hedging his bets with ads/advertisers on his page)

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by kulahan on Saturday March 29, 2025 @12:21AM (#43512698)
Advertisers are only interested in the demographic of “might buy my stuff”, which is only people who can potentially be interested in your product.

I dislike this game where we mince words like it changes the fundamental argument. The two crowds want to be linked up in a way that transfers money most happily from consumers to producers. Unhappy purchases are likely to result in returns. Of course, if one advertiser can keep your returns below a certain rate (or won’t cause them to explode), that’s more ideal, so naturally the market will select for companies that do this unless they have some other incredible metrics outweighing that.

Really the only time this isn’t true is with companies designed around maximal waste - products are often too cheap to bother returning and are only meant to last a use or two anyways.

Re:TV is watching you – Companies inventing new ways to make... by kyboren on Saturday March 29, 2025 @02:02AM (#43513159)
> The goal of any advertising service is to match people with relevant ads

The goal of any advertising service is fully automated population-scale digital pimping, with an extremely sophisticated matchmaking service (backed by all that data) as a value-add.

They put your ass on the RTB street to turn tricks. You get mindfucked by--and maybe catch some viruses from--any John who wants to take a crack at you. In return, you get this nice cheap TV/Youtube/Gmail/article.

Bitch better have my money!