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Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by EdwardDiego on Thursday March 27, 2025 @04:30AM (#43491447)
Kudos to the scientists for working out how to work with this element.

But I have to say, as a speaker of a post-colonial English dialect with strong British English roots...

...calling the element berkelium is either very innocent Berkley pride, or they knew what they were doing...

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/berk

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by b800h on Thursday March 27, 2025 @06:26AM (#43492065)
Not many people are aware that Berk is a piece of Cockney rhyming slang, although perhaps more now that it's listed on that Wiktionary entry.

Berkeley Hunt => C..

My grandmother used to use it all the time; she'd be horrified. Its meaning has diverged significantly from its origin.

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by RugnirViking on Thursday March 27, 2025 @06:48AM (#43492195)
> Not many people are aware that Berk is a piece of Cockney rhyming slang,

I'd say at least the ~70M population of the uk would know it. Probably quite a few outside also

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by Loughla on Thursday March 27, 2025 @07:41AM (#43492561)
Midwest United States we used to use the word Berk interchangeably with times we would use the word asshole.

I never really understood why, but now that I understand it's rhyming slang I'm even more confused as to why we did that.

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by opello on Thursday March 27, 2025 @11:27AM (#43494649)
Which part of the midwest?
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by Loughla on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:05AM (#43504333)
Middle of Iowa. Why?
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by opello on Friday March 28, 2025 @11:35AM (#43506733)
Interesting, I wonder how localized it is?

As for why, because I've never heard the term and am also from the area.

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by Loughla on Friday March 28, 2025 @06:32PM (#43510561)
Ah. I assume it was super local. We used to travel to Nebraska and/or Illinois quite a bit to see family, and they never said it.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by opello on Friday March 28, 2025 @10:55PM (#43512313)
Interesting! I enjoy local vernacular. But the way I read your original message was more like declaring a midwest generalized usage, which may not have been your intent.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by robocat on Thursday March 27, 2025 @07:09AM (#43492345)
In my childhood in New Zealand I remember berk used to mean plonker/fool.

Wiktionary says:

  berk (UK, Ireland, Commonwealth) a fool, a prat, a twit, etc. Although the term remains in fairly wide use, its specific origin and meaning in rhyming slang is less well known, lessening its vulgarity. Synonyms see fool and idiot.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by defrost on Thursday March 27, 2025 @07:16AM (#43492384)
In the AU / NZ domain the Burke and Wills expedition of 1860-61 helped, fairly or unfairly, cement the association of 'Burke' with foolish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Wills_expedition

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by stavros on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:34AM (#43492930)
I've never once heard the word "berk" used in the UK.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by b800h on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:49AM (#43493052)
Not the case at all. I'd say, of those people who are familiar with the word, fewer than 5% are aware of its origins.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by WorldWideWebb on Thursday March 27, 2025 @10:14AM (#43493893)
Moss used it in IT Crowd. That’s where I heard it first, and then looked up the origin.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by DarkNova6 on Thursday March 27, 2025 @06:23AM (#43492038)
Well, given the difficulties working with this highly radioactive element...
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by stavros on Thursday March 27, 2025 @05:29AM (#43491741)
I'm going to with the former! Especially since "berk" still comes from "Berkeley".
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by labster on Thursday March 27, 2025 @05:56AM (#43491881)
I’m not sure which Berkeley you’re thinking of, but I’m pretty sure it’s named after the one located at:

    Lr Bk National Laboratory,
    Bk, Cf
    Am
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by hehbot on Thursday March 27, 2025 @06:39AM (#43492152)
Four elements in a single address is an insane flex
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by perihelions on Thursday March 27, 2025 @08:04AM (#43492707)
YTbErYb, Sc?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ytterby ("Ytterby is the single richest source of elemental discoveries in the world; the chemical elements yttrium (Y), terbium (Tb), erbium (Er), and ytterbium (Yb) are all named after Ytterby")

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by perihelions on Thursday March 27, 2025 @01:30PM (#43495834)
YTbErYb, Sc

Eu

You could *almost* squeeze in a seventh, as Holmium is named after the city of Stockholm; and the city Ytterby is in the greater Stockholm area, in Sweden. Sadly, Ytterby doesn't seem to be contained in any political division with a proper name containing "Stockholm". So, that doesn't work. (Though Ytterby is in a geographic region called the "Stockholm archipelago").

Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by anthk on Thursday March 27, 2025 @09:16AM (#43493292)
He/she forgot Na for National.
Re:Scientists Discover New Heavy-Metal Molecule 'Berkelocene' by asielen on Thursday March 27, 2025 @11:40AM (#43494779)
Except all of the elements in the address above were at least partially discovered at that address or by teams with connections to that lab. Although usually it is a joint discovery with at least one other lab.

Na is a bit older than those labs.

Berkeley Lawrence elements: https://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/new-elements-h...

Lawrence Livermore elements: https://www.llnl.gov/article/41866/lawrence-livermore-credit...