You acknowledge the problem of AI slop up-front, but seem to have chosen to plow forward anyway. Please do consider your actions and their effects carefully [1]. You are in a position of potential influence; try not to squander it.
All the best,
-HG
You can disagree on whether the measures are effective, of course, but they're clearly not thoughtless.
> The polygons the algorithm had drawn were consistently of poor quality with stray nodes and nodes far outside the pool boundaries, and the imports hadn't been discussed with local communities.
Otherwise, you are discounting their effort based on a prejudice — others might be unable to supervise an AI, but someone who's actually developed it might have a better chance of success.
Idea: do not automatically create features that a human can simply approve, instead require them to draw the polygon themselves.
Your docs show a simple image where the user can choose to keep a new object or not. [0] Afterwards it says: "The ones you chose to keep will be uploaded to OpenStreetMap using upload_osm.". This is uploading features automatically. The fact that it asks 'are you sure' is just silly. We all know if humans have to click yes 90% of the time, and no 10% of the time, they'll miss a lot of no's.
The image also proofs that:
- You don't see any polygons properly. You just see a an image of where the pool is. Already on the image I can see that if the polygons align to that image, it will be a total mess.
- You don't see any polygons further away from the object.
Both these points are in stereo's reply that the resulted data was a mess.
Please consider pulling the project. This will generate a lot of data that volunteers will have to check and revert.
[0] https://github.com/mozilla-ai/osm-ai-helper/blob/main/docs/s...
This is just not true. The data can be easily identified with the `created_by` tag. And I have been reviewing myself any data uploaded with the demo (with a clear different criteria on what is good enough)
We all strive for better open data. I upstream feel there is a risk that automated uploads could be easier with this project, creating more boring work for them which is already enough of a problem, that animosity will be a net negative for everyone in this space. Technical solutions such as new tags or opt out schemes will not solve the problem.
[0] Most notably: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rapid
Edit to add: To be clear, they have since taken steps to try to resolve the concerns in question, the discussion is ongoing. I suspect at the end of this we will get a useful tool, it's just off to a rocky start.
Stop forcing AI into everything. Nobody asked for it. Everyone hates it.
Hi, I am the author.
The demo app and any provided code example includes a step asking a human to verify the detected features. You can't upload them automatically unless you modify the source code.
I reiterate the human verification across the docs, linked post, and any code samples.
I haven't ever uploaded features automatically. In fact I manually edited and labeled hundreds of swimming pool samples myself before even training the first version.
Happy to hear and implement any ideas on how to improve the process to prevent automated features to be uploaded.
I know some people might say: just don't publish the tool, I think we can do better at embracing AI and having an open discussion.