In France, like a lot of other countries, they are blaming everything on the immigrants.

Crime? Immigrants are doing it. Retirement age? Immigrants are spending the money.

These things are not backed up by data, but just like the US, or Nazi Germany, nobody cares, simply easier to choose an easy "solution" and blame immigrants.

Immigrants commit a bit less crimes than the locals in France.

Yes, but inmate population is mostly immigrant descendants (for various reasons, poverty and been unable to work are the main ones).

The morally lazy racist explanation is helped by the famous logical fallacy that if most criminals are of foreign origin, it must be because most foreigners are criminals.

> In 2019, 82% of the people implicated by the police and the gendarmerie declared themselves French and 18% foreigners, while they represent 93% and 7% of the population in France respectively.

https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763585?sommaire=576363...

> I haven't check other stats but what if your views on crime are being manipulated by people who have agenda that normally wouldn't be possible if the true reason was revealed?

That is a known fact. Criminality rate drops but french people are feeling more and more insecure.

There is a media oligarchy in France (by billionaires) that pushes anything but left ideas (the left want an exit tax and a wealth tax, the last one is the Zucman tax). The idea that immigrants are criminals is easy to spread as the prison population is clearly different than the mean population of France (for various reasons). They are pushing it so hard that the population is feeling insecure even if the criminality rate drops.

Source about media oligarchy by billionaires: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/M%...

> Criminality rate drops but french people are feeling more and more insecure.

People survive murders because medicine has gotten better. There are more attempts. It’s just that people survive them.

Also, you can’t report crimes against occupants (I know by experience). So yes, crime reports fall.

What is an occupant ?

There used to be a increase of crime but it was because of what the law counts as a crime. And no, non-lethal crime didn't increase so it is not about medicine that is getting better.

https://oscj2.cesdip.fr/agressions/

Its their clever little dog whistle.

It’s occupants because they rape the locals, they steal, mug and kill 1-2 people per day, and yet, we can’t talk about them.

France is under occupation by invaders like when France was under occupation by Nazi Germany. Can’t talk. Can’t complain. Can’t address the occupiers.

And we can’t talk about occupation. Like you’re doing now: Downvoting me to hide my speech, so that there is no problem. No crime is a problem if you can move the people who were hurt far enough from your social circle.

Parisians have developed this unique trait of being about to dodge the identity of the people while talking about it: “Man this block is so dangerous, but it’s impressive how one block away, it’s safe. Maybe it’s because it was renovated. The other day, that women arrived at 10 pm, it was dark, the police arrived too late. But I don’t understand, the municipality installed flower pots all along the street, should be safer now!”

See, never mentioning the cause because it’s socially too dangerous.

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> I haven't check other stats but what if your views on crime are being manipulated by people who have agenda that normally wouldn't be possible if the true reason was revealed?

Actually, you're right about murders, but you're wrong overall i'd say. Organized crime is on the rise since 2004? Maybe a bit before.

Politicians "reformed" the police, removed our "proximity police" which were basically social workers with physical and weapon training, who also were a great point of contact for future informants as it built a lot of trust in some cities (mostly western and northern France: it didn't work as well in the south and in Paris, but it worked truly great were i lived and their removal killed a lot of initiatives. My bet is that the failure in Marseille and Paris killed the initiative which worked great in small to medium cities).

And then circa 2008 they added another police reform that basically pushed police towards targeting petty criminals. Petty criminals turned to organized crime "en masse", and nowaday you have basically 3 crime families who run most of the crime in France. They reached Paris around 2011-2014, divided it cleanly around 2017 (i've heard multiple people talking about a missile launcher sighted in the 93 around 2015-2016 when i lived there, in at least 2 different location) and now politicians act surprised.

Can you provide some stats?