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Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by ChocolateGod on Sunday March 09, 2025 @06:45PM (#43314713)
> The CEO did a Nazi salute on stage. It's on video, and it's very, very obvious.

I think the only people who care about this are people who care about politics in the first place or didn't already like Elon, which isn't everyone and probably not the majority.

Whilst Elon has some blame for Tesla's bad brand image, competition in Europe has made it so if you go Tesla your basically paying a premium for the brand and that's it, Tesla's in Europe iirc have self driving capability much less than the US.

Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by kivle on Sunday March 09, 2025 @07:57PM (#43315255)
Apparently a nazi salute is a funny joke in the US. Very much not so in Europe.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by tim333 on Sunday March 09, 2025 @08:24PM (#43315474)
It doesn't seem to be going down very well in the US either.

One factor is that even if you think Musk was just mucking about or misunderstood, there is still the embarrassment of other people thinking your car choice endorses that.

Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by Panino on Sunday March 09, 2025 @08:48PM (#43315653)
Note that GP used "whilst" which is British English, and previous posts seem Euro-centric and talk about renaming "American football." So it sounds like this person is Europe's problem.

The post had a number of grammatical errors too, so if "whilst" we're at it, should we criticize all of European education? Please don't post low-effort negative nationalism. It's cheap and the subject (the richest person alive is apparently a nazi) is a serious matter.

Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by mcv on Sunday March 09, 2025 @07:34PM (#43315077)
In Europe it's absolutely a majority. Musk is widely despised now. And this used to be a big market for Tesla.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by _DeadFred_ on Monday March 10, 2025 @01:21AM (#43317232)
I live in a red state. My Trump voting friends here call Elon Trump's nazi boy and in a very derogatory way. A lot of people are assuming Nazi behavior is way more accepted by Trump voters than it actually is (or maybe we're a different kind of red here than in the deep south).
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by forgetfreeman on Tuesday March 11, 2025 @03:20PM (#43336056)
Deep South reporting in. On the exceedingly rare occasion that white supremacists gather in public down here they're outnumbered somewhere between 10-100:1 pretty consistently. I'm not saying racial attitudes aren't what they are down here, but nobody much has any time for the Klan around these parts.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by rsynnott on Monday March 10, 2025 @07:33AM (#43319367)
> I think the only people who care about this are people who care about politics in the first place or didn't already like Elon, which isn't everyone and probably not the majority.

... You think the majority of people don't care about Nazi salutes? I mean, certainly if we're talking Europe, yeah, sorry, the majority of people do care about Nazi salutes.

I think, also, that the kind of sneering, what would you call it, implausible deniability maybe, thing the US far-right like to do where they do something outrageously and then smugly deny that they did it, works less well in Europe (I'm not sure why Americans are so tolerant of it, tbh).