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Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by lysace on Saturday March 08, 2025 @01:47PM (#43302420)
Reddit is unfortunately a major thing in my life. There's an eternal battle between left and right politics in my small European country's relevant subreddits.

Not very healthy - it's like a never ending feed of "someone is wrong on the Internet".

For the record: "right" here is roughly equivalent with the political position of the US Democratic party.

Unfortunately these subreddits are not very balanced, so when I do take a break, I see that the other side "wins" to a noticeably larger degree. Again, small country.

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by stego-tech on Saturday March 08, 2025 @01:52PM (#43302475)
What finally helped me break out of those bad habits was reframing who I was trying to convince of an argument. Let's face it, it's highly unlikely you're going to ever convince someone you're directly arguing with online just by the simple fact you're arguing, which often suggests some sort of impasse.

Instead, argue as if you're trying to convince the bored reader who has climbed down through the comments (for some reason), who has found value in this discourse and is trying to get more or better perspectives. That is someone you can convince of your position.

It's been a lot easier to engage in text discourse ever since I had that epiphany, because instead of taking every bait and trying to correct every wrong, I'm only engaging with folks arguing with data, with perspective, with good faith more often than not. That leads to better outcomes, I believe, instead of just contributing to so much noise.

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by heavensteeth on Saturday March 08, 2025 @03:16PM (#43303150)
I try to keep a few things in mind whenever I'm arguing with somebody that I think are helpful (hopefully):

1. Most arguments come down to defining words, even if you may not realise it.

2. Don't follow rabbitholes. Don't deviate from arguing your core premise.

3. You're not trying to prove the other person wrong, you're trying to find the truth.

On #1 for example; I watched a video of a conservative arguing liberals (or something) about a few premises, including "gay marriage does not exist". It was immediately clear to me, but apparently not to the people in the video, that this guy has a different definition of "marriage" to me. That's the breadth of the disagreement. That's all people should've argued with him about. But not one person did. Even when he described his definition of marriage, and how his premise comes about from that definition, everybody immediately became sidetracked. There's just no chance of finding common ground behaving like that.

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by lysace on Saturday March 08, 2025 @04:32PM (#43303723)
In the case of Reddit:

4. It's not that unlikely that you are arguing with an actual child who has picked up enough terminology to be dangerous but completely lacks any deeper understanding.

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by thuanao on Saturday March 08, 2025 @02:04PM (#43302577)
Huh that’s a perspective I hadn’t thought about before. Thanks for sharing.
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by richie_adler on Saturday March 08, 2025 @02:16PM (#43302682)
Very positive attitude. Beware the sealions, but keep up!
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by ncr100 on Saturday March 08, 2025 @01:51PM (#43302467)
It's fascinating, and being "The Subject" of the fascination and never truly "Objective" is a particular conundrum! Good luck with the "unfortunately" aspect -- totally possible to stop. (sexual humor warning: https://imgur.com/dont-touch-girls-m0Qk8)

I think it's part of being human.

I invite a brain specialist to step in here and comment which regions of the brain compelled us to agree with those whom we also feel we "need".

EDIT: .. cut to ncr100 proceeding to open youtube.com ...

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by fph on Saturday March 08, 2025 @02:55PM (#43302964)
Browse individual subreddits, in this way you avoid most of 'the algorithm'.
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by crims0n on Saturday March 08, 2025 @01:55PM (#43302504)
There is a book for this, aptly titled “You Should Quit Reddit”. It got me to quit, highly recommend it.
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by ddq on Saturday March 08, 2025 @03:07PM (#43303058)
I would love to completely cut reddit out of my life but would enjoy a smaller, more positive alternative that aims to provide the benefits of reddit when it was at its best but without the inherent flaws of the system's design and the dark patterns it is now known to encourage. I'm a bit put off by lemmy from my initial, cursory glance for a variety of reasons, but maybe I'm just using it wrong. Would love to hear suggestions that people have used for an extended time and would personally vouch for.
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by nozzlegear on Saturday March 08, 2025 @10:30PM (#43305917)
I've quit Reddit off and on over the years, and one of my fears the first time was missing out on news or helpful tips from small professional/hobby subreddits. I ended up building a tool that would email me the top 3 posts from a list of subreddits every day, and that was all I needed to quit without feeling like I was missing out. My tool eventually broke after Reddit's api change, but now I use one called redditletter¹ which does the same thing.

¹ https://redditletter.com

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by ffiirree on Sunday March 09, 2025 @08:08PM (#43315355)
Nice! May try this
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by johnwarne on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:27AM (#43317013)
This was exactly the same kind of motivation that prompted me to create a RSS project to allow me to interact with platforms like Reddit/HN/Lemmy in a more low-volume and healthy way, subscribing to just the top posts in my RSS reader with rich custom feeds.

https://www.upvote-rss.com

Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by gradientsrneat on Sunday March 09, 2025 @03:00PM (#43312431)
Lemmy was founded by tankie Reddit expats, and the project has had super weird issues in the past like a hardcoded blacklist and no RSS feed support for a while. So, I can't say it's for me either. Would be nice to have a viable Reddit alternative. Although Reddit does still have RSS feeds, and Hacker News does scratch the itch for certain topics.
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by edgarischatting on Friday March 14, 2025 @12:38PM (#43364328)
If you happen to use Reddit in a browser, Safari, then check out Protego for Reddit. You can add keyword filters to hide posts based on keywords, such as political terms. Makes browsing Reddit more positive for sure.
Re:Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what yo... by lysace on Saturday March 08, 2025 @02:23PM (#43302734)