Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by plorg on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:42PM
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Revealing my ignorance here, but was (is?) there a telephone equivalent of anycast such that, say, the 1-800-... Or 1-900... numbers would be routed differently based on location? My basic knowledge of phone systems suggests it would at least be possible.
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Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by function_seven on Thursday March 06, 2025 @04:15PM
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Wikipedia has good info on how RespOrgs handle this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll-free_telephone_numbers_in....
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by iptel on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:54PM
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Absolutely, when call hits local switch it can be terminated differently based on its location. Particularly pertinent for modem based services in the 90s. A single national dialup number would terminate on 100s of local pops and routing decisions would be done to keep traffic as local as possible.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by timthorn on Friday March 07, 2025 @05:55PM
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Internet Thruway from Nortel allowed multiple ISPs to use the same local termination hardware; If I remember the details correctly, different national numbers could be terminated on the same box, with the subsequent IP traffic routed to the correct ISP.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by timthorn on Friday March 07, 2025 @04:13AM
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Yes, the Intelligent Network was the big thing in the 1990s. It allowed for routing as you describe as well as calling cards and many other features:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Network
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by pantulis on Friday March 07, 2025 @11:07AM
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Oh the joys of watching terminal logs with SS7 data frames!
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by xattt on Friday March 07, 2025 @01:23PM
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Was there any way for the customer to somehow interact with SS7 frames?
We’ve had techs come to our home in Canada in the 1990s, and I remember being fascinated with their mystical toolbox phone that seemed to uncover hidden phone line functionality. Almost like the whip in Indiana Jones.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by pantulis on Friday March 07, 2025 @03:26PM
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I don't think so, but who knows. In my case I was working at a telco so everything was very obvious at the dev environments.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by cantrecallmypwd on Friday March 07, 2025 @05:09AM
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911 and 0 (operator).
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by shrubble on Friday March 07, 2025 @07:23AM
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Yes, but it would usually be based on the first 3 or 6 numbers of your phone number. The first 3 are of course “area code” and the 6 are called “NPA-NXX”. This has blurred some due to line number portability and cell phones.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by mschuster91 on Friday March 07, 2025 @08:36AM
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Yes, at the very least 911 (US) / 112 (EU) run on that system. For SIP numbers routing depends on the address you set up in the phone provider's portal, so if you're using bring-your-own-SIP to provide landline phone service in your house, you absolutely have to keep the address current or you risk dialing 911 and ending up on the dispatch of your old addres...
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K...
by kdmtctl on Friday March 07, 2025 @06:05PM
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Not in the US, but we had a country-wide number that each local station simply routed to a local extension. Sometimes, even multi-line wasn’t available at some stations, so it was just a sequential list of extensions to try. Looks like a hack, but it worked flawlessly.