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Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by xrisk on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:17AM (#43276661)
From going public? What do you have against that?
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by rf15 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:28AM (#43276714)
Shareholders optimize for money, users don't like themselves and the things they use to be optimized for money. They rather have good service. Since the perfect product earns you max money with min features, these two priorities are opposed.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by xrisk on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:00AM (#43277252)
I get what you're saying, but I’m not sure it’s fully true. If it were true, then all public companies would be bad (using bad in a loose sense here). I think Apple, for example, has a good balance between optimizing money and product.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by rf15 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @03:45AM (#43277908)
Well, maybe only in the sense that you still seem to be willing to buy. But the amount of people willing to pay the apple tax seems to be shrinking lately, considering recent reports of low sw quality and let's also throw in the 4-digit monitor stand stunt.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by thefz on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:26AM (#43281313)
The quality of Apple's own software is terrible nowadays, they are a prime example of this erosion of end user value.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by ThrowawayTestr on Thursday March 06, 2025 @04:01PM (#43285039)
>then all public companies would be bad

That would be correct

Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by jachee on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:10AM (#43276932)
No service has ever, ever, ever actually improved after its company went public.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by dragonwriter on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:14AM (#43276959)
Google search continued improving for a while after a Google went public.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by panja on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:18AM (#43276976)
And yet here we are...
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by pavel_lishin on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:19AM (#43281231)
And then what happened?
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by Velorivox on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:49AM (#43277195)
Since you put three evers - Amazon went public on May 15, 1997. If you can say it hasn’t improved since 1997, with a straight face, I’d be convinced you’re a few bats shy of a belfry.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by jachee on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:35AM (#43277468)
Amazon wasn’t a service. It was a retailer. And I can’t 100.0% guarantee that I won’t get a counterfeit if I order today, so I don’t consider that an improvement, overall.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by Fire-Dragon-DoL on Thursday March 06, 2025 @04:00AM (#43278014)
Shipping got way faster though
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by pavel_lishin on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:19AM (#43281241)
If we're using the metric "garbage I was tricked into purchasing arrives faster", then yes, Amazon is a tremendous success story.
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by cjonas on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:19AM (#43276674)
Guaranteed eventual enshitification?
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by nomilk on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:41AM (#43276786)
Privately owned: probable eventual enshitification.

Publicly owned: guaranteed eventual enshitification.

Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by Mrdarknezz on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:02AM (#43277266)
It will turn discord into shit
Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by EGreg on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:57AM (#43276863)
Shareholders are the prime driver behind enshittification of platforms. Because they hold earnings calls every quarter and make the team extract more and more rents from their ecosystem, to make number go up.

But hey, the shareholder game already started when VCs bought in. I support every company developing a way for utility tokenholders to buy out shareholders. That way we fairly buy out the parasitic shareholder class so we eliminate the main incentives for enshittification!

Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by Azure88 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @06:58AM (#43279195)
Once shareholders are involved it's no longer enough for the company to make enough profit to sustain itself, it now needs to make more profit each year.

There might be a period of growth in the beginning when investment leads to development of new features and refining the platform, and more users join. But eventually it hits a point of maximum market saturation. The product is as feature rich as it can be, the user numbers have reached their limit.

It's at that point that enshittification begins. More ads, the minimum amount of money spent to maintain the system, locking features behind premium subscriptions, prices go up. Just look at youtube, netflix etc. At this point youtube in particular has become unusable, and the content is nothing like the stuff you used to watch on there, it's all long video essays full of sponsors as that's what the company promotes and encourages, but not what people really want to see.

Re:Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks ab... by thefz on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:25AM (#43281299)
It is the first step towards enshittification.

Shareholders expect constant growth which will lead to reality-disconnected PMs forcing dumb feature after dumb feature down the users throat until the very codebase of discord will rot and bloat.