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Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by RodgerTheGreat on Sunday March 02, 2025 @01:14AM (#43227893)
If it's so easy, build it.

A portable runtime isn't that hard. An effective and approachable authoring tool is the real challenge.

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by jonplackett on Sunday March 02, 2025 @03:06AM (#43228401)
Yes. The authoring tool was the brilliance of flash. It allowed non-coders to make interactive things really easily.

Anyone whose made an Instagram filter or TikTik effect recently - it was like that, though even easier, but allowing you to do actual coding right down to very low level stuff should you desire.

and you could get push your creation to any screen in the known universe with essentially zero testing.

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by nottorp on Sunday March 02, 2025 @04:00AM (#43228666)
Flash is the only thing that needlessly ate my battery worse than javascript though.

Pretty sure half the internet surfers had plugins that made flash run only when user activated by the time it started to wane.

Personally I only activated it for games i wanted to play, so most of that creativity was lost on me.

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by Marazan on Sunday March 02, 2025 @09:53AM (#43231018)
That was just shonky code, nothing to do with flash itself.
Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by nottorp on Sunday March 02, 2025 @10:00AM (#43231075)
All of it ?!?

I remember the time when pc fans hearable meant 95% that i opened a web page with a flash component by mistake...

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by SilasX on Sunday March 02, 2025 @10:16AM (#43231211)
Heh, I’ve used that test to guess if someone was running npm.
Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by Marazan on Sunday March 02, 2025 @06:56PM (#43236657)
The flash runtime was pretty efficient but the authoring tools were so easy to use that anyone could produce "working" abominations filled with the most good awful code that got the result they wanted.
Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by tjoff on Sunday March 02, 2025 @10:01AM (#43231079)
I guess there is nothing wrong with javascript either?

Humanity has proven it can't handle anything else than static pages. Then the developers themselves have to pay for their bloat rather than the users.

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by jonplackett on Monday March 03, 2025 @04:21AM (#43239938)
I’m taking about a bit earlier - ie before mobile phones.

Obviously flash was not designed for small screens or small batteries.

But it could have been adapted! If Adobe had been in any way competent or caring the flash runtime could have been converted to html5

But Adobe suck

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by nottorp on Monday March 03, 2025 @11:06AM (#43243107)
> before mobile phones.

It was the same even before mobile phones. Laptops had batteries too. CPU fans sounded even worse than today when pegged at 100%.

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by epoxy_sauce on Sunday March 02, 2025 @11:36AM (#43232140)
That program shaped my brain in ways I can't articulate. Took things I learned about computers and animation as an 11yo for granted as basic knowledge.
Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by sitkack on Sunday March 02, 2025 @06:24PM (#43236394)
Having never used the authoring tool, can you point me towards something to model it after?

I think a Bret Victor, "Inventing on Principal" style editor would be perfect, combined with some sort of scratch like Python IDE where each element is defined in terms of its reactive behaviors with other elements on a timeline.

I didn't say easy, I said not too difficult. Order of magnitude difference. :)

https://youtu.be/PUv66718DII?t=634

With some http://lighttable.com/

Re:How Flash Games Shaped the Video Game Industry by alanmoraes on Sunday March 02, 2025 @08:41PM (#43237417)
You can watch some tutorials on Macromedia Flash on YouTube. Here's an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfHNexSSqfg&ab_channel=JGtut....