I don't really understand this. Why should I be more concerned about the propaganda some country on the other side of the world is spreading than the propaganda my own government is spreading? Why should me or anyone else in the cross hairs of the federal government rn care?

Because the country on the other side of the world benefits from yours losing stability and influence.

I don't buy the propaganda angle, but why bother hacking when companies will happily upload their sensitive data to you.

You know DeepSeek is open source and can be self-hosted, right?

Yeah but by default most people will just use the hosted one

But they've given enough for you to cut their servers entirely out of the loop...

fyi:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/xis-new-frontline-corpor...

https://x.com/NinaDSchick/status/1891958716976578864

Liang Wenfeng, the CEO of deepseek, shake hands with Xi jinping

and Xi smiled and said something to him

btw, the defacto leader of Huawei also was there

suspicious!

So Altman meeting with Trump and Biden are totally fine, but if DeepSeek CEO had a meeting with the Chinese president, it suddenly is "suspicious". LOL

Get a real life please.

"CCP" is a tell for US state propaganda. The correct abbreviation is CPC - Communist Party of China. And if you think US LLMs are censorship free and truthful, I have a fine bridge I'd like to sell for a good price.

Actually this line trying to claim that the acronym “CCP” is US state propaganda, is itself Communist propaganda. It’s a pretty common response from astroturfers to undermine criticism of the CCP in social media by deflecting to something irrelevant. Be careful you aren’t doing their work for them.

Anyways, the idea that US LLMs are censored in the same way as Chinese LLMs is a false equivalence. Models built by private companies under their own freedom are completely different from censorship imposed by a dictatorship (the CCP) trying to erase facts and censor speech in LLMs, which is what they literally require in Chinese law (“Content generated using generative AI shall embody the Core Socialist Values“).

"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [email protected] and we'll look at the data."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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