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Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by mohsen1 on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:27AM (#42950852)
> available via the Gemini API in Google AI Studio and Vertex AI.

> Gemini 2.0, 2.0 Pro and 2.0 Pro Experimental, Gemini 2.0 Flash, Gemini 2.0 Flash Lite

3 different ways of accessing the API, more than 5 different but extremely similarly named models. Benchmarks only comparing to their own models.

Can't be more "Googley"!

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by seanhunter on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:50AM (#42951310)
I don't know why you're finding it confusing. There's Duff, Duff Lite and now there's also all-new Duff Dry.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by whynotminot on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @01:58PM (#42953389)
I tend to prefer Duff Original Dry and Lite, but that’s just me
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by TiredOfLife on Thursday February 06, 2025 @01:57AM (#42959810)
And all three filled from the same tube. That the widescreen version doesn't show because the top is cut off.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by sho_hn on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:29AM (#42950889)
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by vdfs on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @12:45PM (#42952260)
- Experimental™

- Preview™

- Coming soon™

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by esafak on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:51PM (#42956507)
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by hoytschermerhrn on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:23PM (#42959058)
- Generally Available? Available?? Simply showing a checkmark???

- In Experimental? Coming soon??

Make it make sense.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by raverbashing on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:38AM (#42951056)
Honestly naming conventions in the AI world have been appalling regardless of the company
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by belval on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:47AM (#42951246)
Google isn't even the worst in my opinion. From the top of my head

Anthropic:

Claude 1 Claude Instant 1 Claude 2 Claude Haiku 3 Claude Sonnet 3 Claude Opus 3 Claude Haiku 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5v2

OpenAI:

GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1 o3-mini o1-mini

Fun times when you try to setup throughput provisioning.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by jorvi on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:52AM (#42951345)
I don't understand why if they're gonna use shorthands to make the tech seem cooler, they can't at least use mnemonic shorthands.

Imagine if it went like this:

  Mnemonics: m(ini), r(easoning), t(echnical)

  Claude 3m
  Claude 3mr
  Claude 3mt
  Claude 3mtr
  Claude 3r
  Claude 3t
  Claude 3tr
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by rfoo on Thursday February 06, 2025 @03:43AM (#42960376)
It's

GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4-turbo GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1-preview o1 (low) o1 (medium) o1 (high) o1-mini o3-mini (low) o3-mini (medium) o3-mini (high)

At this pace we are going to get to USB 3.2 Gen 1 real fast.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by pkaye on Thursday February 06, 2025 @08:02PM (#42968149)
> GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o

From what I understand GPT-4o will map to the most recent generated model so it will change over time. The models with the date appended will not change over time.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by jug on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @12:59PM (#42952496)
Google is the least confusing to me. Old school version number and Pro is better than Flash which is fast and for "simple" stuff (which can be effortless intermediate level coding at this point).

OpenAI is crazy. There may be a day when we might have o5 that is reasoning and 5o that is not, and where they belong to different generations too, snd where "o" meant "Omni" despite o1-o3 not being audiovisual anymore like 4o.

Anthropic crazy too. Sonnets and Haikus, just why... and a 3.5 Sonnet that was released in October that was better than 3.5 Sonnet. (Not a typo) And no one knows why there never was a 3.5 Opus.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by NitpickLawyer on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @02:11PM (#42953547)
> And no one knows why there never was a 3.5 Opus.

If you read between the lines it's been pretty clear. The top labs are keeping the top models in house and use them to train the next generation (either SotA or faster/cheaper etc).

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by esafak on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:52PM (#42956515)
4o is a more advanced model than o1 or o3, right!?
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by vitorgrs on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @07:17PM (#42957322)
Imagine when they launch o4...
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by wellthisisgreat on Thursday February 06, 2025 @10:53AM (#42963561)
Wait is it?? o1 is more expensive I think
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by dpkirchner on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @01:41PM (#42953133)
Mistral vs mistral.rs, Llama and llama.cpp and ollama, groq and grok. It's all terrible.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by danielbln on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @02:21PM (#42953682)
Claude Sonnet 3.5...no, not that 3.5, the new 3.5. o3-mini, no not o2. yes there was o1, yes it's better than gpt-4o.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by sunaookami on Thursday February 06, 2025 @01:35PM (#42965138)
Don't forget that o3 is actually the second model in the o-series but can't be named o2 due to obvious reasons.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by llm_trw on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:30AM (#42950921)
You missed the first sentence of the release:

>In December, we kicked off the agentic era by releasing an experimental version of Gemini 2.0 Flash

I guess I wasn't building AI agents in February last year.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by soulofmischief on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @02:46PM (#42954050)
Yeah some of us have been working on agents predominately for years now, but at least people are finally paying attention. Can't wait to be told how I'm following a hype cycle again.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by justanotheratom on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @12:49PM (#42952327)
They actually have two "studios"

Google AI Studio and Google Cloud Vertex AI Studio

And both have their own documentation, different ways of "tuning" the model.

Talk about shipping the org chart.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by bn-l on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @01:55PM (#42953347)
> Talk about shipping the org chart.

Good expression. I’ve been thinking about a way to say exactly this.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by lelandfe on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @03:30PM (#42954666)
A pithy reworking of Conway's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by mhh__ on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:54PM (#42959223)
Subtle takeaway from that article is that he's stil alive and publishing stuff!
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by echelon on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @04:04PM (#42955101)
I love this phrase so much.

Google still has some unsettled demons.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by jiggawatts on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @04:08PM (#42955153)
> Talk about shipping the org chart.

To be fair, Microsoft has shipped like five AI portals in the last two years. Maybe four — I don’t even know any more. I’ve lost track of the renames and product (re)launches.

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by felixg3 on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @04:18PM (#42955296)
They made a new one to unite them all: Microsoft Fabric.

https://xkcd.com/927/

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by jiggawatts on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @07:57PM (#42957613)
Fabric is their unified data and reporting service… which also does a bit of AI (of course).

The latest one is Azure AI Foundry: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/marketplace-...

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by CRConrad on Thursday February 06, 2025 @05:41AM (#42961048)
It's funny how by now, you know some xkcd numbers by heart.... Me, I'm a typical 386.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by justanotheratom on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @08:45PM (#42957940)
not to mention all the Copilots....
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by itissid on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:05PM (#42955945)
I wonder what changelog of the two studio products tell us about internal org fights(strifes)?
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by ssijak on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @03:50PM (#42954910)
Working with google APIs is often an exercise in frustration. I like their base cloud offering the best actually, but their additional APIs can be all over the place. These AI related are the worst.
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by mring33621 on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:22AM (#42974438)
heuristic for Google Gemini API usage:

if the model name contains '-exp' or '-preview', then API version is 'v1alpha'

otherwise, use 'v1beta'

Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by nitwit005 on Thursday February 06, 2025 @06:18PM (#42967480)
Clearly, the next step is to rename one to "Google Chat".
Re:Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone by FleetAdmiralJa on Thursday February 06, 2025 @08:15PM (#42968212)
And kill it the 10th time