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Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by pbalau on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:20AM (#42822520)
Plus, jobs like this are for people that have a connection with the organization. I can't see myself doing anything, however good the pay might be, for Arsenal. Would be very glad to do that for Chelsea.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by shrikant on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:24AM (#42822545)
Having done a bit of consulting for Chelsea FC, I wouldn't recommend working there in an office job. Poor pay (I doubt anyone below "Head of"/CxO even touches 6 figures) and very average working conditions.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by haliskerbas on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:35AM (#42822621)
Aren’t they both owned by pompous rich dudes and private equity, like most companies? Tasty is the boot we enjoy licking.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by vasco on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:38AM (#42822649)
Everything is owned by rich people, is your solution to not enjoy anything?
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by andrepd on Saturday January 25, 2025 @12:23PM (#42823003)
Actually in countries like Portugal or Germany, most clubs are owned by its members (or at the very least, 51% owned by its members), which can e.g. vote on its president.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by superfrank on Saturday January 25, 2025 @01:54PM (#42823661)
You're not totally wrong about the 51% thing (although it's really 50% + 1 vote), but it's not like that is a panacea that keeps out corporate interests. Leverkusen and Wolfsberg are owned by Bayer and Volkswagen respectively (although I understand there's historical reasons for that) and Leipzig is 99% owned by Red Bull, but they only have 50% - 1 voting rights to comply.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by Zenul_Abidin on Saturday January 25, 2025 @12:37PM (#42823118)
Arsenal's owned by Stan Kroenke. Chelsea by Todd Boehly the LA Dodgers guy.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by ksynwa on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:25AM (#42822550)
I thought at first that you might be bantering but after reading your last sentence I am not sure anymore. I don't think being associated with Arsenal at this posting is ever going to be a blemish on anyone's CV. They are higher than Chelsea in PL standings at this moment.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by pbalau on Saturday January 25, 2025 @12:02PM (#42822850)
Why bantering?

150k a year puts you in the 1% earners in UK, plenty to comfortable live on.

As you mentioned, having such a job in ones CV can only help.

But, I've been a Chelsea fan for most of my life, if I take such a job at Arsenal and do it properly, I'll be actively working against the organization that brought me so many emotions over the past 30ish years.

Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by lifeisstillgood on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:27AM (#42822572)
Oh that’s a fascinating reaction I never thought of. I mean people might refuse to work for any gambling company or any arms maker, but I cannot I imagine someone offered a job in banking refuse say Goldman but take JP Morgan, simply because their family have been Morgan fans for generations and would never accept any other bank …
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by pbalau on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:43AM (#42822697)
Not sure if you intentionally obtuse or simply don't get it. There is no reason to be a fan of an organization whose main goal is to be making money, but there are plenty of reasons to be a fan of an organization whose main goal is to be better at a sport than other similar organizations.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by atq2119 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @12:09PM (#42822901)
I don't think the distinction is about whether the organizations make money; the distinction is about entertainment. Professional sports are primarily a form of entertainment. Sports fans are a bit like music fans in that regard. The rivalries in sports can get toxic sometimes, but there's weird snobbery in music and other arts as well.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by addandsubtract on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:52AM (#42822773)
There's no reason to be a fan of an organization whose main goal is to make money, yet GP said he's a Chelsea fan.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by idiotsecant on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:53AM (#42822778)
You don't think professional soccer teams are an organization whose main goal is to make money?
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by dambi0 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @01:09PM (#42823344)
If it is, and it probably isn't, they are really not very good at it.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by druskacik on Saturday January 25, 2025 @12:10PM (#42822907)
You underestimate how much being a soccer fan means, especially in countries like UK.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by alt227 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @11:40AM (#42822673)
So they are looking for people in the Venn diagram cross section of AI researchers and Arsenal FC supporters, of which I imagine there are very few.
Re:Arsenal FC AI Research Engineer Job Posting by dh2022 on Saturday January 25, 2025 @12:18PM (#42822971)
I met some Americans who would never work for the New England Patriots.