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Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dwnw on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:42PM (#42786050)
Don't worry, they said they are doing it in Texas where the power grid is super reliable and able to handle the massive additional load.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dang on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:29PM (#42786574)
"Don't be snarky."

"Eschew flamebait."

Let's not have regional flamewar on HN please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dwnw on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @07:13PM (#42786978)
Not guilty. No sarcasm intended, of course. If your guidelines are so broad to include this, you should work on them, and in turn, yourself.

Governor says our power grid is the best in the universe. Why don't you believe us?

Stop breaking your own rules.

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

Let's not ruin HN with overmoderation. This kind of thing is no longer in fashion, right?

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dang on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @07:46PM (#42787267)
If you didn't intend your comment to be a snarky one-liner, that didn't come across to me, and I'm pretty sure that would also be the case for many others.

Intent is a funny thing—people usually assume that good intent is sufficient because it's obvious to themselves, but the rest of us don't have access to that state, so has to be encoded somehow in your actual comment in order to get communicated. I sometimes put it this way: the burden is on the commenter to disambiguate. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

I take your point at least halfway though, because it wasn't the worst violation of the guidelines. (Usually I say "this is not a borderline case" but this time it was!) I'm sensitive to regional flamewar because it's tedious and, unlike national flamewar or religious flamewar, it tends to sneak up on people (i.e. we don't realize we're doing it).

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dwnw on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @07:54PM (#42787308)
So you are sorry and take it back? Should probably delete your post rather than striking it out.

I live, work, and posted this from Texas, BTW...

Also it takes up more than one line on my screen. Not a "one-liner". If you think it is, please follow the rules consistently and enforce them by deleting all comments on the site containing one sentence or paragraph.

Otherwise, people will just assume all the comments are filtered through your unpredictable and unfairly biased eye. And like I said (and you didn't answer), this kind of thing is no longer in fashion, right?

None of this is "borderline". I did nothing wrong and you publicly shamed me. Think before you start flamewars on HN. Bad mod.

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by lvl155 on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:44PM (#42786091)
Probably because they don’t have to deal with energy-related regulations…
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by llamaimperative on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:42PM (#42786688)
That was sarcasm, the Texas grid falls over pretty much annually at this point.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by heydenberk on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:44PM (#42786088)
Say what you will about Texas, but they are adding energy capacity, renewables especially, at a much faster rate than any comparable state.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by segasaturn on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:47PM (#42786127)
How much capacity does solar and wind add compared to nuclear, per square foot of land used? Also I thought the new administration was placing a ban on new renewable installations.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:58PM (#42786252)
The ban is on offshore wind and for government loans for renewables. Won't really affect Texas much, it's Massachusetts that'll have to deal with more expensive energy.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by energy123 on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @07:05PM (#42786921)
Does anyone know how the ban on onshore will work. Is it on federal lands only? If so, how big of a deal is that?

I read this but it lacks information: https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-tru...

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by hooli_gan on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:50PM (#42786160)
Isn't there enough space in Texas? There are only 114 people per square mile. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by itishappy on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:54PM (#42786207)
Why does it matter? Is land at a premium in Texas?
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by zekrioca on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @12:05AM (#42789219)
It doesn’t.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by malfist on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:23PM (#42786515)
Why is that a useful metric? There is a lot of land.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by zekrioca on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @12:03AM (#42789202)
Because the commenter is a pro-nuclear who thinks it will solve all of short-term demand problems.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by CapcomGo on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:46PM (#42786113)
Ok but their grid sure seems to fail a lot.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dwnw on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:46PM (#42786110)
Probably the first state to power all those renewables down at the whim of the president too.
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Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by rUsHeYaFuBu on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:19PM (#42786480)
I wonder if these things had something to do with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Investment_and_...

> Of the Act's top ten recipients, seven states had voted majority Republican, with Wyoming ($1.95 billion) and Texas ($1.71 billion) in the lead

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act#Impact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act#Implem...

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dartos on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:18PM (#42786464)
I live in Florida.

Is the new rail you’re talking about the brightline?

It pretty much exclusively goes to and from tourist centers and is far too expensive ($40-$60 per seat each way) to deter most residents from just driving to Orlando. I wouldn’t really call it infrastructure (like the tri rail is.)

Not to mention that it’s the deadliest train in the US. People here barely follow traffic laws, but when you have it passing through major foot traffic areas every hour like on antlantic avenue in Delray Beach, people are going to get hit.

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by cpursley on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:42PM (#42786686)
You'd rather not have it?
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by dartos on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @10:06PM (#42788480)
Rather not have the deadliest train in the US fly through high foot traffic areas every hour?

Yes, I’d rather not have that.

I’d rather them just add a route from palm beach to Tampa. Or extend the tri rail to Orlando.

The brightline prices out most residents, since it’s just about as expensive (or cheaper) to drive as it is to take the brightline.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/death-train-a-timeline-of...

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by jofzar on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @05:54PM (#42786209)
Texas currently has snow again, so expect it's grid to catastrophically fail again because it doesn't have access to the rest of the USA grid.

So expect a bad result again for like the 4 time in 5 year.

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by orliesaurus on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:26PM (#42786545)
Hi from Austin, TX - we have no "abnormal" power outages right now and the tiny bits of snow look kinda cute
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by ljoshua on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:14PM (#42786429)
Grid is fine, snow is melting, everything is business as usual. CenterPoint had 99.9% deliverability for the past 24 hours, and ERCOT has 14,781 MW in reserve power available (https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/gridconditions). Source: I live in Houston.

I know this was tongue in cheek, but c'mon, we can respect each other, right? :)

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by verdverm on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:20PM (#42786489)
> we can respect each other, right?

If we taking cues from the leader of the country, probably not

Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by itishappy on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:41PM (#42786678)
Don't? He controls our government, not our behavior.
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by verdverm on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:51PM (#42786793)
I'm doing my best not to, but we can all observe that Donold has made it acceptable for many people
Re:Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build ... by kortilla on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @06:47PM (#42786743)
Snow did not cause the outage.