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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by blackoil on Sunday January 19, 2025 @12:23AM (#42753948)
While I agree with your argument partially, I still find it ironic.

It assumes that we must prevent public from accessing some thoughts/propoganda as they may not be able to make right decision themselves. This is rhyming with 1930s Germany or other authoritative regimes since then.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by encoderer on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:05AM (#42754164)
Like encouraging your wife to sleep in another man’s bed. After all, it should be fine! Do you want to prevent her from accessing some thoughts??? Let her make the right decision herself.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by blub on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:50AM (#42754848)
Social media can’t sleep in beds or other places, it doesn’t have a body.

Actually it’s more like preventing your wife to talk to other men, just in case. We know what the world thinks about these kinds of husbands…

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by encoderer on Sunday January 19, 2025 @12:07PM (#42758904)
Social media doesn’t sleep anywhere but the ccp does and they are currently staying rent-free in the minds of millions of Americans.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by pjerem on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:20AM (#42754674)
Wait what ?
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by suraci on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:40AM (#42754774)
it's all about sex!
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by dang on Thursday January 23, 2025 @01:28AM (#42801261)
Please don't do this here.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by encoderer on Thursday January 23, 2025 @04:10AM (#42802200)
Dont do… what? Make a point?

No profanity. No personal attacks. Just a metaphor for letting the ccp have free reign on our citizens

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by dang on Thursday January 23, 2025 @01:52PM (#42806818)
Please don't make your points in a flamey/provocative way, especially on divisive topics. I would have thought it was obvious that your GP comment was doing that.

You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines in other places too: for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42754148, which was really abusive and the kind of thing we end up having to ban accounts for.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Note this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

We've already had to ask you this kind of thing more than once in the past.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wilg on Sunday January 19, 2025 @12:25AM (#42753959)
you can still access any thought you want due to our permissive free speech laws. you just cant run the app if you're china
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by sodality2 on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:55AM (#42754515)
“You can still access any thought you want due to our permissive free speech laws. You just can’t sell this book if you’re Ray Bradbury”
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wilg on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:46AM (#42754819)
analogy completely misses the point which is that there is no impact on what anyone is allowed to say
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by sodality2 on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:50AM (#42754841)
There is an impact on the TikTok’s app to display content to American users.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wilg on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:04AM (#42754952)
yes exactly but not on any of tiktok's users to say what they want, which is 1000x more important than the rights of the PRC to tweak the algorithm and moderation however they like
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by sodality2 on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:09AM (#42754985)
IMO the right to use TikTok in the US is actually way more important than the “right” of users to post whatever they want on it. In the same way that FB can ban you for violating content policy, and the app store can ban you for whatever reason. These are all okay because they’re all the domain of that company/entity to police. The problem is when the government steps in and forces it. I don’t think what website I can use is the domain of the government.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by enos_feedler on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:45AM (#42754438)
Even more ironic is that we have a government programming us with fears (just fears!) about what China _could_ do to justify some action they are taking. Literally running the playbook of entity they are trying to make us afraid of. Fucked up.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wilg on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:05AM (#42754963)
doesn't have to be fears, can just be good security hygiene. and china's running a whole playbook too. welcome to geopolitics!
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by enos_feedler on Sunday January 19, 2025 @06:04PM (#42763045)
What if my own needs for security hygiene don’t line up with our governments?