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Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by mhh__ on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @01:38PM (#42715126)
The algorithm is genuinely very good. That's why I deleted it.

It's very addictive and not always just shoveling slop.

I don't know if I can do it justice but there's something genuinely quite fresh about the AI stuff I see every now and again e.g. Anna from the red scare podcast shilling industrial glycine was a meme for a while. Very Land-ian. Neo-china...

Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by sitkack on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:01PM (#42718416)
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by esafak on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @10:10PM (#42720618)
Prismatic served the news. You can only get so addicted to Reuters!?
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by lostlogin on Thursday January 16, 2025 @01:31AM (#42722044)
Fox manages to do ok.
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by HenryBemis on Thursday January 16, 2025 @07:10AM (#42724245)
Back in the day when I was using Windows Mobile (2002-2008) there was an app (RSS basic) that was pulling the news from various websites (I had added BBC, CNN, some with IT news, etc.). Before I would leave home I'd sync it, and it would give me 'many' news articles, just the text ofc.

At some point I got addicted into reading news, so out it went. So yes, anything that gives you dopamine hits (cat videos, semi-naked men/women, news of the world), must go!

Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by sitkack on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:02AM (#42726153)
Prismatic was even worse (better?), IIRC it scanned your twitter feed and then gave you a set research articles, academic websites, etc. To say I have a breadth of interests is an understatement. My twitter feed looks like arxiv and and a british tabloid had a baby.

What prismatic gave me was pages and pages of Art, Design, Philosophy, Mathematics, Literature and all of it hours to days old. Every single article it back I wanted to read and there was pages of it, never ending. There was no way I could even filter out what read and even what to be aware of, there was simply too much.

I closed it and never went back. I also realized that even knowing of knowing is itself a Faustian bargain, we are all on a temporary atoll in a giant sea.

Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by mhh__ on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @07:55PM (#42719556)
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by PaulDavisThe1st on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @08:04PM (#42719642)
Can't watch YT shorts because their algorithm is too good also ...
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by soylentcola on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:52AM (#42726909)
I disable them with a browser addon (and Revanced on mobile) because I seriously never want to watch a 30 second video on Youtube. Having to scroll past useless snippets when I'm looking for something had borderline-ruined Youtube for me.
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday January 16, 2025 @01:46PM (#42729208)
there's some astoundingly good shit on there. some japanese cabinet maker who does phenomenal stuff and conveys it all in 30 secs. so much more. but so much more, in fact, that i can't risk my life/time by stepping into the stream.

first time i did that, i finally realized that this is probably the tiktok experience that so many other people are talking about. utterly terrifying.

Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by whateveracct on Thursday January 16, 2025 @12:53AM (#42721793)
It's a proper Skinner box. Very well made. And in millions of people's pockets too.
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by leobg on Thursday January 16, 2025 @12:21PM (#42728130)
Someone who remembers good old Skinner. Cool!
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by jagermo on Thursday January 16, 2025 @03:05AM (#42722661)
same here. I found myself loosing an hour of just scrolling through short videos, most of them really good and ones that I liked. I had to delete the app because it was working too good.
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by nonrandomstring on Thursday January 16, 2025 @03:31AM (#42722863)

  """ Within such a possible future system, the only command or need
  that the machine would not respond to would be the one command that
  I have a feeling some of us would most want to type into the
  machine. Which is the demand that it destroy itself, you see, that
  would be my problem with the machine. It would meet all the needs
  except my need to see it destroyed. It would take every other
  command well, and meet every other need well, but the need to just
  to just shut it down. Television is something like that now.

  I feel sometimes as though I am plugged into a giant computer that
  will take every command I give it except the one that I want the
  most. The command that the damn machine blow itself up. It will do
  anything else I say. I type in "food", and out comes food. I type in
  "I want to give this talk in Washington". It comes out.  But the one
  command I want is the command for the damn thing to just go "boom!",
  and all the little transistors just to go... """

  Rick Roderick 1990
Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by Grimblewald on Thursday January 16, 2025 @07:43PM (#42732786)
the tiktok algo is genuinely impressive. What's cool is that the engineers published some works explaining how it functions.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.07663

It's an interesting read if you're into recommender systems or AI in general. What amazes me is that despite this published work google and meta still can't produce a decent social media algorithm, so it's either incompetence or malice.

Re:TikTok preparing for U.S. shut-off on Sunday by throwaway48476 on Friday January 17, 2025 @08:23AM (#42737245)
Google can't even produce a decent search engine. I've switched to yandex.