I've never even heard of that before, and I'm terminally online.

Anyway, desktop computers aren't really the main problem here. For example, Apple Macs offer vastly more personal freedom than Apple iPhones. If iPhones behaved like Macs in that respect, then we might not be having this debate. To the extent that Macs have been increasingly locked down over the past 15 years, it's mostly just copying the iPhone, porting the "features" over from one platform to the other.

This is the first time I heard about it. Has anyone looked into their claims? Would love to buy an affordable Linux pad or a mini PC.

FWIW, I have no idea if this is any good. My point is, I found this after maybe 3 minutes searching. If we were to spend 30 minutes, we would definitely find something reasonable.

> If we were to spend 30 minutes, we would definitely find something reasonable.

That's quite an assumption.

I'm using a GNU/Linux phone (Librem 5) as a daily driver, and it has a lot of rough edges. Root access is a no-brainer (it basically runs Debian), but a small company making them can't possibly provide Apple experience.

That's fair. What kind of rough edges did you find? I think I'm OK without any Google services, because I can simply keep another phone just for those and banks/trading platforms.

For me, it's mainly the battery life and the UI lagginess. There are some reviews on the forums: https://forums.puri.sm/t/why-i-stopped-using-my-librem-5-aft..., https://forums.puri.sm/t/librem-5-fatigue/21934.

Thanks! Looks like some of the concerns are legit. I guess I'll carry two phones if I buy this one. The web browsing experience is the most concerning one -- if that's bad then I might as well use a dumb phone.

The web browsing is quite manageable, especially with NoScript. Sent from the phone.